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KORNdog
KORNdog
Since 940 Days

2008-02-23 04:25:11 In reply to GriftGFX (2008-02-22 05:33:30)

Posted by GriftGFX
Why can't you do that on the same system? You can have two profiles on the same 360.. I do it (did it) with Halo and Gears all the damn time. If your profile was present on the same memory device (or a memory card), why wouldn't that work (assuming there is local co-op)?

In game, you can certainly have two live (gold) profiles logged in at the same time.
you can have 2 profiles on the same HDD, but not 2 LIVE profiles. if local co-op is in the game, and that is actually what was shown, how can moly have his live account visible AND the other guy have his visible? you cant do it, you can have a second profile as a sort of guest but thats it. take halo 3 for example. if im round a friends i can jump in and play split screen online, but i cant sign in to increase my stats. it doesnt let you, you have to be some generic guest instead. all games have been like this. and even if it wasnt the case, how would player 2 be able to save the money/experience they get? only player 1 has the HDD to save.

the ONLY way i can see same system co-op working is if your FORCED to use a memory card. save you character, and take him round a friends house, save your data and then put him back on your HDD when you get back home. kinda faffy just to play co-op locally tbh.

so if thats how they're doing it then at least local co-op is in.

as for online surely its innevitable, but will you still be restricted in terms of how far you can move. considering its a story based game and considering player 2 is simply a henchmen i'd suspect so. its no good if one guy wanders off to do a quest while another does a different one entirely because then you miss story elements. seems you'll be restricted in both local and online co-op modes imo...simply to keep the narative going in the game.

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2008-02-23 04:57:58

You can totally have two LIVE profiles on the same Xbox. You can totally sign in two live gold accounts in Halo 3 (or Gears, or a bunch of other XBL titles) and play split screen with your account on a buddies Xbox. Increasing your stats, accessing your friends list, using a headset. This limitation is completely imaginary.. 'cause it works quite well with existing titles.

It's the only way you can play splitscreen and use VOIP in most games.

you cant do it, you can have a second profile as a sort of guest but thats it. take halo 3 for example. if im round a friends i can jump in and play split screen online, but i cant sign in to increase my stats. it doesnt let you, you have to be some generic guest instead.
This is just plain wrong.

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Since 1382 Days

2008-02-23 04:58:34

Me and my friend played Rock Band and The Simpsons co-op, and we were both signed in and earned achievements. It was just as if we were playing separate games. It's definitely possible. And we were both signed onto live while the 360 was on. Our friends would pop online, send us messages, etc. It works.

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2008-02-23 05:27:19

Also:

the ONLY way i can see same system co-op working is if your FORCED to use a memory card. save you character, and take him round a friends house, save your data and then put him back on your HDD when you get back home. kinda faffy just to play co-op locally tbh.
You can recover your XBL account through the dashboard, but obviously if you wanted to use your character in local co-op a memory card would be required to pull this off (assuming they're not saving any data remotely). You wouldn't actually need to ever remove your XBL account or Fable 2 save data from the memory card though to make it back to your original console.. you could just ya know.. plug the memory card in.

KORNdog
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Since 940 Days

2008-02-23 05:32:05 In reply to GriftGFX (2008-02-23 04:57:58)

Posted by GriftGFX
You can totally have two LIVE profiles on the same Xbox. You can totally sign in two live gold accounts in Halo 3 (or Gears, or a bunch of other XBL titles) and play split screen with your account on a buddies Xbox. Increasing your stats, accessing your friends list, using a headset. This limitation is completely imaginary.. 'cause it works quite well with existing titles.

It's the only way you can play splitscreen and use VOIP in most games.
you cant do it, you can have a second profile as a sort of guest but thats it. take halo 3 for example. if im round a friends i can jump in and play split screen online, but i cant sign in to increase my stats. it doesnt let you, you have to be some generic guest instead.
This is just plain wrong.
i have never gotten it to work then if thats the case. i've tried to add my own gamertag to my friends profile list only for it to be denied. im ALWAYS forced to sign in as the generic, no stats, guest. so in halo im always going by my friends gamertag with a (1) at the end (i think its like that, not played halo 3 since it came out) how exactly do you get 2 live accounts working on the same system?

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2008-02-23 06:04:34 In reply to KORNdog (2008-02-23 05:32:05)

Posted by KORNdog
i have never gotten it to work then if thats the case. i've tried to add my own gamertag to my friends profile list only for it to be denied. im ALWAYS forced to sign in as the generic, no stats, guest. so in halo im always going by my friends gamertag with a (1) at the end (i think its like that, not played halo 3 since it came out) how exactly do you get 2 live accounts working on the same system?
You go to the account recovery option on the dashboard to retrieve your gamertag, and then you log in once you're in Halo (or Gears of War or whatever) on the second controller. When you "hit A to join" or whatever the in game dashboard thing opens up and lists all the profiles on the system (one will be guest, but you can chose the account you recovered).

It definitely works in Halo.. and Gears at least. According to Phaethon it works w/ Rock Band and The Simpsons as well. You can increase your stats, earn gamerscore.. whatever. I almost always recover my account when I go play Halo at a friend's house, since it's the only way it will let you use VOIP.

KORNdog
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2008-02-23 06:20:13 In reply to GriftGFX (2008-02-23 06:04:34)

Posted by GriftGFX
You go to the account recovery option on the dashboard to retrieve your gamertag, and then you log in once you're in Halo (or Gears of War or whatever) on the second controller. When you "hit A to join" or whatever the in game dashboard thing opens up and lists all the profiles on the system (one will be guest, but you can chose the account you recovered).

It definitely works in Halo.. and Gears at least. According to Phaethon it works w/ Rock Band and The Simpsons as well. You can increase your stats, earn gamerscore.. whatever. I almost always recover my account when I go play Halo at a friend's house, since it's the only way it will let you use VOIP.
ah, wouldnt that let them sign in under my gamertag tho if they wanted? or can you remove the profile once your done for the night.

while im at it. is rainbow six vegas split screen online like halo? and i guess gears is since you mentioned it. might try it out, im going round my mates tomorrow.

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2008-02-23 08:04:59 In reply to KORNdog (2008-02-23 06:20:13)

Posted by KORNdog
ah, wouldnt that let them sign in under my gamertag tho if they wanted? or can you remove the profile once your done for the night.

while im at it. is rainbow six vegas split screen online like halo? and i guess gears is since you mentioned it. might try it out, im going round my mates tomorrow.
When you recover your account on any Xbox it becomes the only unit that can log into that account. So when you go home and recover your gamertag on your own console, they'll no longer be able to log in. Alternatively you can just carry it on a memory card. I have no idea if R6V has splitscreen online.. Gears of War does tho.

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