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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 00:58:41

I'm trying to find a single interview for this game where they talk about all that they've done to the game and I see absolutely nothing!

Total madness really.

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INDIGO
INDIGO
Since 2242 Days

2009-06-03 01:11:01

I saw a list of features. You'll probably get an interview tomorrow when the show officially starts.

Archaos
Archaos
Since 1521 Days

2009-06-03 01:25:03

The Forza trailer was so well done.
I forget the name of the team that puts together those drifting videos. Team Blackjack or something :S

Also I'm glad they are allowing for cars to be flipped over. Should make for some spectacular crashes. (Who else if loosing decides to drive in the opposite direction to crash into the oncoming cars?)

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A_M
A_M
Since 543 Days

2009-06-03 01:28:58

I caught some gameplay vids on gamespot and if you drive in the opposite direction now, your car will turn into a ghost car preventing you from crashing into oncoming cars. Which is very good especially for online.

Archaos
Archaos
Since 1521 Days

2009-06-03 01:30:15

^Aw :'(

btw I didn't mean in online matches.

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A_M
A_M
Since 543 Days

2009-06-03 01:34:46

well I think the vids where of single player and not multiplayer. Whether it's arcade or career is another question.

Jin187
Jin187
Since 1284 Days

2009-06-03 01:35:26 In reply to Optimusv2 (2009-06-03 00:58:41)

Posted by Optimusv2
I'm trying to find a single interview for this game where they talk about all that they've done to the game and I see absolutely nothing!

Total madness really.
This will do for now :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-forza-moto...

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 03:15:38

It's a start! :D

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 03:40:33

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/989/989276p1.html

IGN small preview. Something more in depth later today.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Namaiwa
Namaiwa
Since 1037 Days

2009-06-03 05:12:40

Forza Motorsport 3 Gamespot stage demo (it looks very good):
http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6210707/?hd=1&tag=top...

Viginti_Tres
Viginti_Tres
Since 1042 Days

2009-06-03 05:54:28

There are a few offscreen gameplay videos on IGN. Check them out, looks great.

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 06:36:36

This wouldn't be a forza thread without a bit of drama so let's gets going :D

One person claims he played the game at E3 and says that the framerate drops to 30fps when in cockpit view.

It doesn't look like it, but I suppose we'll see if we hear this from a more trustworthy source as it could simply be a troll.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1614698...

Forza 3 is pretty cool. I'm surprised that racing in the Cockpit view drops the to framerate to 30fps. Hopefully they change that by release.
I'm personally filing it into the troll category until I get more proof because I've been looking at videos and it doesn't appear that way at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDlE4s0X4so

I suppose this is as good a video as any to look at, but it still looks pretty damn snappy in cockpit view to me. Yea, I'm going with it being 60 until we have confirmation of otherwise.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Viginti_Tres
Viginti_Tres
Since 1042 Days

2009-06-03 06:40:07

There is no way to tell unless the Video itself runs at 60 FPS. This is a useless discussion until someone more official confirms/denies it. It sounds like BS to me anyway.

LEBATO
IS WRONG LEBATO - IS WRONG
Since 1662 Days

2009-06-03 06:43:20

Ok GT5 DOES look better. Let's just get something straight. Are we all aware the following video is not representative of.......even a replay?

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-forza-moto...

With that said, GT5 is the better looking of the two at least as of right now, although I don't see that changing.

And Jin, GT will be doing damage this time around. They are doing stupid Nascar too though, which is retarded. They are also doing Rally, like they ever did a good job at it. And if they are having this stupid drift mode that was in Prologue then we have a really inconsistent game that doesn't know what to be.

I want to see MORE of these two games.

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 06:44:18

That is definitely true, but I'm operating on the "if that's what dropping to 30fps looks and runs like, I'll take it"

Yea seems like bs to me as well. Nobody else anywhere has said such a thing.

Lebato we all know that, it's the Forza 3 Video Editor in action. We know that isn't a replay nor actual gameplay. It's a video done in the editor.

Call me blind, but I've yet to see that GT5 looks better graphically especially in the environment department. Also a lot of what we saw in the GT5 video can just as easily be video mixed with replays. Until I see some actual gameplay footage of GT5, I won't be singing it's praises just yet. Unless we plan to go based on prologue?

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 1525 Days

2009-06-03 06:45:44

Man, all high-end racing games look the same to me.

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 06:52:03

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1614757...

lol... this is where it gets good.


I UPLOADED that video, it's my youtube channel... now. Let me explain something very clearly.


If you encode a video @ 60FPS its for a reason. It is because the content is 60 F P S, not because it's running @ 30 FPS. Because you cannot show a game that is actually running at 30fps running @ 60 FPS just because you encoded that way. Now you can show a 60FPS game @ 30 FPS if you DO encode the video capped at 30 FPS and the game will look like it's running at 30 FPS, makes sense right?

Ask Blimblim, it's his websites video he capped that, all I did was throw it on YT and give him credit.


Forza 3 RUNS at 60 FPS in and out of the cockpit, end of story. Now if this was seen in a Replay by you and it actually runs @ 30 fps in the replay then that's another story.

Something like that would not be allowed to happen by MS.

Get CHE in here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1614761...
Which Forza 3 did you play? Everyone else (including myself) played the 60fps one. You should have asked for the 60fps version. They were hiding these from you.
Others saying what I think is the case, but I guess we won't know until Che confirms, but I could care less if the game plays as well as it appears to play.

---
Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

vspectra06
vspectra06
Since 2246 Days

2009-06-03 06:52:32

Lebato, damage in GT5 might be restricted to just rally cars. I think the car lighting in GT5 is still superior to Forza 3's though.

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 06:56:46

I think the only edge GT5 has graphically is the car models and perhaps less aliasing? I'm not entirely sure because that video can be played with in so many ways.

I think the lighting and reflections off the cars, during actual gameplay, looks better than anything I've seen of GT5 thus far.

Forza 3 even appears to have motion blur still on while still being 60fps.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14345839/forza-...


Wow guess i missed these gameplay vids earlier.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14345839/forza-...

This one shows the cockpit.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

LEBATO
IS WRONG LEBATO - IS WRONG
Since 1662 Days

2009-06-03 07:07:57 In reply to vspectra06 (2009-06-03 06:52:32)

Posted by Optimusv2
That is definitely true, but I'm operating on the "if that's what dropping to 30fps looks and runs like, I'll take it"
That is inconsistent, I wouldn't take it. I technically would (because I'm buying the game regardless), but it would be a huge flaw.
Lebato we all know that, it's the Forza 3 Video Editor in action. We know that isn't a replay nor actual gameplay. It's a video done in the editor.
Not even, I'm not taking that either.
Call me blind, but I've yet to see that GT5 looks better graphically especially in the environment department.
Yeah, so far the environments are looking better in Forza, true. A funny thing is that people (including me) criticize GT for their old school, sorry ass 2D trees. But honestly, I still think their car models are looking too damn awesome, along with the amount of them on track, and the lighting. It can have some truly photorealistic instances which I have yet to see from FM3.
Posted by vspectra06
Lebato, damage in GT5 might be restricted to just rally cars. I think the car lighting in GT5 is still superior to Forza 3's though.
Really? Where did you read that? That would just add to my statement of...

"we have a really inconsistent game that doesn't know what to be."

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 07:12:41

We agree 100% on the cars. I think GT has much better car models. I don't know if the Forza series will ever match them in that area.

Also Polyphony seems to have found that perfect blend of lighting, texture to give that amazingly photo realistic look and Forza's combination ends up making it stand out more as a videogame, but I'll be damned if it isn't one great looking game :)

Forza comes off as more visually appealing to me right now, but who knows that may be an opinion I adjust as I see more of what GT5 has to offer.

Didn't the first sign of damage we saw in that gt trailer occur on a nascar or normal track and not a rally track? I think it did if you look at the hood they were blatantly showing us it. Also, GT may also have superior interiors. Turn10 may need time to improve on those. Another, and this is minor I guess, but I don't know anyone that can perfectly keep their hands on a steering wheel like that as it flips :P

They should have the driver's hands go mad or something, but maybe that would impact gameplay if the car is still driveable.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

LEBATO
IS WRONG LEBATO - IS WRONG
Since 1662 Days

2009-06-03 07:31:15

I'm just happy that Forza looks like it belongs as a 2009 racing game, unlike.......you know.

And yes, PD does *something* that makes their games more photo real. Even when GT4 came out. The environments didn't compare to those of Forza 1...AT ALL, and the Forza car models were also better but somehow GT4 looked more realistic.

I think they both look really awesome, I just think GT has the upper hand right now.

Yeah, that guy was really grabbing that wheel. I also noticed that they are trying to make the wheel movements really smooth too, and I think it's fine. Either you have some jerky movements that you don't do in real life, or a something really smooth, matter of choice.

And on flips and more on gameplay. I think that's really big. Forza has proven to be pushing boundaries again. I don't know if GT will have it, but time and time again, PD has given stupid excuses for not doing damage or flipping cars. Forza has been doing damage since it came out, and now it's also flipping cars. Next up (if not included yet) is wheels falling off, and something tells me Forza will do it first.

By the way, did Sony confirm a release for GT?

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 07:38:02

Don't think they did. Release date for GT I mean.

Haha wheels coming off seem like the next obvious step and the step after that?

Drivers being flung head first through the front window and right off one of the cliffs shown in the Forza 3 mountain track :)

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

vspectra06
vspectra06
Since 2246 Days

2009-06-03 18:19:16 In reply to LEBATO (2009-06-03 07:07:57)

Posted by LEBATO
Really? Where did you read that? That would just add to my statement of...

"we have a really inconsistent game that doesn't know what to be."
I didn't read it anywhere, I just stated the game "might" only have damage for rally or nascars considering the time it would take to do damage modeling for all the normal cars (isn't it rumored to have over 800?) in addition to licensing problems. If there was damage for the regular cars I think Polyphony would have showed it instead of just on the rally part of the trailer.

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1432 Days

2009-06-03 18:23:55

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14345839/forza-...

Wow!! Check out this vid when Greenawalt goes into debug mode and pauses the game. Damn it looks good!

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-forza-moto...

Another vid here.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

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