2011-05-05 20:16:43 US-Gov official says Osama is dead since over 9 years... and more

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj0pM5FoYbs

2011-05-05 20:37:05

lol

2011-05-05 20:54:25

And for the record: it's funny because this guys actual knowledge of events (and personal credibility) are basically complete unknowns, and he's a frequent guest on what is essentially a radio show for crazies. There's absolutely no reason to believe a word this guy is saying without evidence. Isn't that what the conspiracy nuts want? Evidence? Yet at every turn they're equally willing to eat up anecdotal bullshit so long as it feeds into their hysteria. Do you know why a lot of these theories simply defy logic? Because they'd require an insane amount of cooperation from third parties to pull off. You can't keep those kinds of secrets forever.

And sure, Dr. Steve Pieczenik may be such a voice.. or he may be some crazy ex-whitehouse staffer who wants attention. In order for me to actually care about what he has to say, I have to know which one of those things this dude actually represents. Some people don't need to know. They only need to hear that he has insider information on how the govt is fucking us. People will eat this shit up anyway, because he could have worked in the fucking mail room and people would still believe his word over any president.

Whatever. The accusing party always bears the burden of proof. His word aint that.

2011-05-05 21:16:53

Osama has been corfirmed dead sice the end of 2001 by many different sources (many leaders and even the head of CIA). He had a disease that needed frequent medical attention. There was absolutely no sign of him since 2001, since he denied to have anything to do with 9/11.

"The accusing party always bears the burden of proof." That's an absolutely ridiculous thing to say, when there is no proof whatsoever that Osama was behind the attacks, or that he's been killed 3 days ago.

2011-05-05 21:19:40

And yet, all of those things that you just said are entirely hearsay as well. Shocking.

You would have had a blast with the Kennedy assassination too. But lets agree to disagree I guess. I'm not saying we should take everything authority tells us at face value, I just don't really value this guys testimony, and I'm not sure why anyone should. I personally think the credibility of these crazy (and yes, I do think it's a little crazy) conspiracy "personalities" speak volumes.

I'm respectfully going to remove myself from this conversation now, because I'm certain that this is going no where fast. Have fun, and good luck uncovering the awful truth.

2011-05-06 02:27:34

Conspiracy = crazy, I get it. The intellectuals in Germany in 1933 must have been crazy as well when they suspected Hitler to orchestrate the Reichstag fire that established the power of the NSDAP, led to the killing of 6 million jews and the second word war.

I tell you something that's crazy: 2001 the US along with its allies attacked Afghanistan. 2003 the US and some of its allies attacked Irak. Both wars were illegitimate and full of deceit, especially the whole WMD hoax. Surely the people pulling the strings behind the scenes had only the best intentions in mind... or not.

And what about the banks? Is he crazy about it as well? That they're butfucking the people of america (we have our fair amount of butfucking, too) and steering the world economy into a huge crash. That the fed devalues the dollar and you have to pay the bill.

2011-05-06 06:31:32

And the freaking moon landing is a hoax too, you can't just land on the moon like a boss, what kind of shiat! is that?

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2011-05-07 23:00:06

Alex Jones is a joker. I came to the conclusion after the bull shit he was throwing about India/Israel conspiracy after the Mumbai 2008 attacks

2011-05-07 23:15:23

Why should I use my own brain? I've got the mainstream media doing the thinking for me. Yeah, just look, new videos that show the proof: Bin Laden is a fan of silent films and dyes his hair. And only when he's watching his own image on TV his beard turns gray. You believe that? If you believe in what the media has to say then it's a definite "yes".

Have fun in your surveillance state.

2011-05-07 23:51:17 In reply to Doom_Bringer (2011-05-07 23:00:06)

I don't know anything about that. India and Pakistan are arch enemies, especially in Pakistan there are a lot of influential people who're openly hostile against India.

I don't care about his background and track record. When you're trying to build a counter weight to mainstream media you're bound to get something wrong. A lot of these people only try to get a different opinion on these things.

But that's not the reason why you're not listening. The whole US media was going crazy about the mighty MWD in Irak, especially the NYT. The difference between the NYT and Alex Jones is that one got you into a war with Irak and is still generally trusted and the other isn't. Investigative journalism is dead. Journalists write opinions without checking the credibility/background because it's cost effective and that's what everybody does. You have to decide whenever you want to trust that opinion or not.

I'm not saying Alex Jones is right. I'm saying he has an opinion that is worth hearing because he has a source that does seem VERY credible.

2011-05-08 00:50:30

Pakistan is not to be trusted!! You may be an American, maybe you hate blacks and don't like Obama so you fall back on this conspiracy stuff...but I don't really care since I am from a neutral side so just take my word for it.

I am 100% sure elements within Pakistan like the ISI were probably protecting bin Laden covertly and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Laden's $1 million home was built using American money. Pakistan in the past 20 years or more has sheltered many terrorists who attacked India and when the Indian government asks Pakistan to take action, they simply shrug them off. They sheltered and continue to shelter: Dawood Ibrahim, the guys (including a Major General who co-ordinated attacks during Mumbai 2008 attacks), Lashkar-e-Taiba (which is a full on terrorist organization whose sole purpose is to destroy India). Finally if you take Pakistan's own word for it, they used to export these trained terrorist into Kashmir to carry out attacks throughout India. I don't know how many innocent Indian people these bastards have killed. Pakistan IMO is a double agent nation, some good guys but mostly bad guys...American's shouldn't give them any money that's for sure

Maybe you should read about the people and organizations I mentioned here and conduct some research of your own...

2011-05-08 03:12:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoxPY3H5EqA

Sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it?

All information regarding Pakistan is very diffuse. From what I've read through the years the CIA, MI6 and Mossad basically run this countries' military operations. The whole farce with that CIA agent killing two Pakistani just shows how much the US has their dick buried into Pakistans ass (also an interesting article here. Throughout the years they sent in the Pakistani army to raids on the northern tribes and they captured a lot of supposed top-terrorist.

This is what former ISI Chief has to say about that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGv7lJDTIvg&feature...

2011-05-14 23:07:14

Man, if Ron Paul doesn't win the 2012 election I'll loose my faith in humanity.

2011-05-15 06:15:42

That'll never happen. C'mon now

2011-05-15 06:52:13 In reply to Tinks (2011-05-15 06:15:42)

Why not? Doesn't he sound like the most reasonable politician you've listened to? And other than anyone else he has a track record of decades standing up for his beliefs. He also has the biggest military/vets support.

And I'm also sure there are quite a few people who were very disappointed to find out that Obama just continues with the same shit that Bush did.

2011-05-15 16:16:57

He also sounds like one of the most extreme changes this country could elect. No one in this country ever likes drastic change. For the most part this country is comfortable with how things are.
It'll never not be a democrat or a republican in the white house. It'll also always be two politicians that everyone is comfortable seeing. Ones that say just enough, but not enough to bring about questioning their character.

2011-05-15 18:53:16

Who said that? The press who doesn't engage in any serious discussion but rather reserves to bashing the crap out of this guy? Be sure to read the comments below. People realize something's terribly wrong and the worse the situation gets the more they wake up and start thinking.

It's important that Paul runs as a republican candidate. You're right in saying he doesn't stand a chance as a 3rd party candidate since most people wouldn't vote for someone outside the two party system. But you're underestimating the power of fear that mobilizes people to do something (Paul got the most dedicated following). People fear what future has in store for them, especially when the outlook is that grim and undeniable.

Here in Germany we had the quickest turnaround in our political history in just one single legislation. People were very unsatisfied with our political leadership for some time now. They are sick of politicians who betray our country by increasing our debt, basically throwing our money in corporate throats and robbing the middle class blind (THE backbone of our society). They increased the runtime of our nuclear plants just half a year ago (against the will of a large majority here) and then Fukushima happened just before two major elections were held in two of the most conservative states. We had millions of people on the streets, from the young student, the housewife to the old pensioner. Now we have the first green prime minister in the economically most powerful state and the green party is covering ground at a staggering rate across the country.

People who voted for them (everyone I know did) are no radicals. In fact radical parties lost a lot of ground, be it on the left or the right spectrum. People realize they need to take control of their own country and the green party is a very viable platform for that. They honor our constitution and they were consistent in their beliefs, no matter how unpopular it made them in the past or how much they were called unelectable.

Maybe the US society needs a catalyst just like we did when Fukushima blew up. The fiscal politics and monetary system will be the biggest topic in 2012 and chances are we'll be seeing more of that in the coming 12 months.

2011-05-26 22:20:04

Today US congress gives the president the power to wage wars at any time wherever he wants, maybe even against American citizens in the USA. A sad day for the whole world...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjcvql6By4s&feature...

2011-07-26 01:49:51

Why would they bring about the news of his death now, and not 9 years ago?

2011-07-26 01:54:51

To spread fear among the people and controll them. The government is EVIL! EVIL i tell you! Also we never landed on the moon and Elvis is alive. For sure.

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2011-07-26 01:59:47

I think I remember one of Gaddafi's sons got a face full of British airplane the week Osama died...