Game of Thrones S5 - *Unmarked S1-5 Episode Spoilers*

Loakum
Loakum
Since 5918 Days
For this year's season Finale...I'm hoping Littlefinger score him some of Sansa's wet monkey! That would please me greatly.

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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 6685 Days
So are they keeping Tywin alive or? I mean, I didn't see him croak. Just kinda go "Ooh arrows." And I expected a little more from that Shae scene.

Book spoiler: And no Lady Stoneheart? Was kind of hoping for that to be the end scene.
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Loakum
Loakum
Since 5918 Days
Whoa...so Shea really did go all in to betray Tyrion. That bitch! She got what she deserved!
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Tinks
Tinks
Since 6769 Days
Yeah I think they are saving that one Phaeth. Probably start the next season with her.
The way they had Brienne find Klegane and Arya was different than the book too. In the book he dies of his wound that he refused to let Arya treat I'm pretty sure.
It's kinda weird how they had him get the shit kicked out of him instead. Even after they played up that wound he got for a number of episodes this season, thought for sure it'd stick to the book on that one.

Tywin's done though
The whole Tyrion story at the end isn't nearly as powerful as in the book either. There's a huge story to Tyrion and his first marriage which they briefly touch on a few seasons ago, that really impacted this part of his murdering his own father.
It's really weird they left it out too since it has a large impact on his relationship with Jaime too.

Also the dude under/in the tree wasn't nearly awesome enough!
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 6685 Days
That sums up my feelings on everything tonight.
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Loakum
Loakum
Since 5918 Days
It didn't sum up my feelings! What about meeeeee? I have feelings too. *sob* They didn't show any Sansa, and I bet none of you even care. *runs away sobbing*
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
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GRRM gunning for Sansa Stark now.

What's funny is that a lot of the deaths this season never happened.
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 6711 Days
Posted by Loakum
Whoa...so Shea really did go all in to betray Tyrion. That bitch! She got what she deserved!
Like Tinks said, it's a bit more complicated than that. The backround story about Tyrion and his father is what makes that moment so colossal in the book. His father has ALWAYS despised him, even to the point of wanting to utterly humiliate him even AFTER DEATH. That is hate on an unbelievable scale for any parent to have for their child. He taught it to Cersei, he tried to poison Jamie with it but he wouldn't let either of them do it. It's crazy isn't it? You want to hate Jamie for what he is and what he's done and here is with unquestionable loyalty to his brother.


Dying on the shitter after learning that all the rumors about your family legacy being an incestuous in-breed pigsty are REAL? That's just all kinds of universal cosmic karmic justice.


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Loakum
Loakum
Since 5918 Days
Posted by Phaethon360


GRRM gunning for Sansa Stark now.

What's funny is that a lot of the deaths this season never happened.
dang man...GRRM is cold blooded! At least allow her to have a nude scene before he snuffs her out.
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Loakum
Loakum
Since 5918 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
Like Tinks said, it's a bit more complicated than that. The backround story about Tyrion and his father is what makes that moment so colossal in the book. His father has ALWAYS despised him, even to the point of wanting to utterly humiliate him even AFTER DEATH. That is hate on an unbelievable scale for any parent to have for their child. He taught it to Cersei, he tried to poison Jamie with it but he wouldn't let either of them do it. It's crazy isn't it? You want to hate Jamie for what he is and what he's done and here is with unquestionable loyalty to his brother.


Dying on the shitter after learning that all the rumors about your family legacy being an incestuous in-breed pigsty are REAL? That's just all kinds of universal cosmic karmic justice.


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well...when you put it that way, it does kind of sound bad for Tywin. Just curious, what was his plans for Tyrion after he had him killed?
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GrimThorne
GrimThorne
Since 6711 Days
Posted by Loakum
well...when you put it that way, it does kind of sound bad for Tywin. Just curious, what was his plans for Tyrion after he had him killed?
Knowing Tywin and his hate for Tyrion? It wouldn't surprise me if he would have erased his name from the Lannisters completely.

You have to understand where it all comes from-

“You are an ill-made, devious, disobedient, spiteful little creature full of envy, lust, and low cunning. Men’s laws give you the right to bear my name and display my colors, since I cannot prove that you are not mine. To teach me humility, the gods have condemned me to watch you waddle about wearing that proud lion that was my father’s sigil and his father’s before him.” (ASOS, Tyrion I)

That's HATE bro. Look at what Tywin did to Tyrion's first wife-

After Jaime had made his confession, to drive home the lesson, Lord Tywin brought my wife in and gave her to his guards. They paid her fair enough. A silver for each man, how many whores command that high a price? He sat me down in the corner of the barracks and bade me watch, and at the end she had so many silvers the coins were slipping through her fingers and rolling on the floor, she . . . ” The smoke was stinging his eyes. Tyrion cleared his throat and turned away from the fire, to gaze out into darkness. “Lord Tywin had me go last,” he said in a quiet voice. “And he gave me a gold coin to pay her, because I was a Lannister, and worth more.” (AGOT, Tyrion VI)

What kind of man takes his son's wife , declares her a prostitute and then let's his entire guard rape her? What kind of man does something like that to his own son?
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Loakum
Loakum
Since 5918 Days
Posted by GrimThorne
Knowing Tywin and his hate for Tyrion? It wouldn't surprise me if he would have erased his name from the Lannisters completely.

You have to understand where it all comes from-

“You are an ill-made, devious, disobedient, spiteful little creature full of envy, lust, and low cunning. Men’s laws give you the right to bear my name and display my colors, since I cannot prove that you are not mine. To teach me humility, the gods have condemned me to watch you waddle about wearing that proud lion that was my father’s sigil and his father’s before him.” (ASOS, Tyrion I)

That's HATE bro. Look at what Tywin did to Tyrion's first wife-

After Jaime had made his confession, to drive home the lesson, Lord Tywin brought my wife in and gave her to his guards. They paid her fair enough. A silver for each man, how many whores command that high a price? He sat me down in the corner of the barracks and bade me watch, and at the end she had so many silvers the coins were slipping through her fingers and rolling on the floor, she . . . ” The smoke was stinging his eyes. Tyrion cleared his throat and turned away from the fire, to gaze out into darkness. “Lord Tywin had me go last,” he said in a quiet voice. “And he gave me a gold coin to pay her, because I was a Lannister, and worth more.” (AGOT, Tyrion VI)

What kind of man takes his son's wife , declares her a prostitute and then let's his entire guard rape her? What kind of man does something like that to his own son?
yeah, that's hate.

I just allowed myself one book spoiler because folks who read the books, are raveing about this characters not being revealed. So I looked this character up.....OH MY GAWD!!!! It was a doozy! 3 letters: L. S. H.
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Tinks
Tinks
Since 6769 Days
Yeah that's who Phaeth spoiler tagged below that pic of Sansa

I bet that's who the next season opens on.


But yeah the story Grimthorne is talking about is what I was referring to too.
In the books the way Tyrion's 1st wife was treated really haunts him throughout the whole story.
When Jaime sets him free in the dungeon, Jaime confesses that his wife was not a prostitute and they just didn't want him marrying anyone lowborn. So essentially the girl got raped and no one knows what happened to her after.
This puts a rift between Tyrion and Jaime so large that he even goes so far as to say he killed Geoffrey before they part ways.
Then Tyrion sees Varez(spider) before he risks himself going up a secret dark ladder to his father's chambers. Makes Varez look even more evil.
The murder happens and Tywin is painted as truly evil at that point and it makes the death all the sweeter.
In the show the way he tells him he never planned on killing him and that he was his son almost made you feel badly for him, which was weird.
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Loakum
Loakum
Since 5918 Days
^ yeah, that would had been way more impactful than what was shown. That would be a great question to ask the show's producers...why they leave such a emotional vital tidbit like that out?
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Tinks
Tinks
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Yeah it made that murder scene weaker IMO
And it also left the relationship of Jaime and Tyrion incredibly strong.
The shows producers must know something we don't about the future of both characters...
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Loakum
Loakum
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Also...where on earth is Uncle Benjen Stark? He went missing in season #1, and after season#4...still his whereabouts are unknown!
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asdfg
asdfg
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Posted by Loakum
Also...where on earth is Uncle Benjen Stark? He went missing in season #1, and after season#4...still his whereabouts are unknown!
Seriously thought he would be inside the tree.

I bet he went to Dorne to shag and drink margaritas in the sun.
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Loakum
Loakum
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Posted by asdfg
Seriously thought he would be inside the tree.

I bet he went to Dorne to shag and drink margaritas in the sun.
That could happen.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 6685 Days
Posted by Loakum
Also...where on earth is Uncle Benjen Stark? He went missing in season #1, and after season#4...still his whereabouts are unknown!
Here's a good explanation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFfP4gZGpok
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Loakum
Loakum
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Posted by Phaethon360
After seeing that video, I have a new found respect for George RR Martin. The man is truly doing the Lord's work. :)
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
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The Lord of Light's work...
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asdfg
asdfg
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SEVEN HELLS!

http://youtu.be/r5V8ecsrxeY

Betrayal served him good, affording to launch a music career.
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Loakum
Loakum
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Posted by asdfg
SEVEN HELLS!

http://youtu.be/r5V8ecsrxeY

Betrayal served him good, affording to launch a music career.
For once I'll be completely serious. Jerome (Bron) actually has a nice voice. He done that song Justice, for his cover of "Up On the Roof"
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asdfg
asdfg
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Posted by Loakum
For once I'll be completely serious.
Hold on, hold it right there, just let me get a camera, pen and paper so i can document this historic event! ;)
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Loakum
Loakum
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Posted by asdfg
Hold on, hold it right there, just let me get a camera, pen and paper so i can document this historic event! ;)
*grabs a hand full of bacon grease and rubs it on my chest* ...and that was that. *walks away with a manly strut* ^_^
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