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SC3 is awesome and terribly under rated. Exclusivity and the silly create a fighter mode are the only two negative things I can really say about it. I love the character edits.. okay and maybe the new characters were a bit boring.. but otherwise, SC3 > SC2.

I guess if you're a big Ivy fan I can see that though.. but if you play as Cassandra, SC3 > All.. and she's soooo much better than Sophi.. which pretty much invalidates SC1 as the best in series.

ah, no love for Sesuka :(

But yeah, SC3 was better than (XB/PS2)SC2. As for my reasons not mentioning the GC version, well I'm a biased Link lover. Take that away, and yeah, SC3 was better than SC2 easily.

As for SC1, I haven't played SC1 in such a long time, but that nostalgia is hard to let go. Maybe that may be the case for others too. I'll have to replay it one day, but first I will need to find a Dreamcast or an old arcade cabinet in order to do so. Unless Namco re-releases it on VC/PSN/XBLA or something(which I doubt).

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[quote=GriftGFX]SC3 is awesome and terribly under rated.  Exclusivity and the silly create a fighter mode are the only two negative things I can really say about it.  I love the character edits.. okay and maybe the new characters were a bit boring.. but otherwise, SC3 > SC2.

I guess if you're a big Ivy fan I can see that though.. but if you play as Cassandra, SC3 > All.. and she's soooo much better than Sophi.. which pretty much invalidates SC1 as the best in series.[/quote]
ah, no love for Sesuka :(

But yeah, SC3 was better than (XB/PS2)SC2. As for my reasons not mentioning the GC version, well I'm a biased Link lover. Take that away, and yeah, SC3 was better than SC2 easily.

As for SC1, I haven't played SC1 in such a long time, but that nostalgia is hard to let go. Maybe that may be the case for others too. I'll have to replay it one day, but first I will need to find a Dreamcast or an old arcade cabinet in order to do so. Unless Namco re-releases it on VC/PSN/XBLA or something(which I doubt).

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And here I thought that [SC IV] was what my PS3 was for.

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Exclusivity and the silly create a fighter mode are the only two negative things I can really say about it[SC III].

Lollolololololollololololollollol. Double standards total. :P

I played only the first Soul Calibur, it was quite fun, I'm no fan of fighters and never bothered with the sequels.

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Well SC1 had a certain impact that gives it a pretty unfair advantage. Subsequent games in the series are just bound to be less eventful regardless of whether they carry the formula forward or not.

I think everyone will readily agree that after 1 the series sort of faded into the background as "another fighter" rather than THE fighter with the earth practically shaking at the bare mention of its name. SC1 was a brute, a titan, and just about every credible source I know gave it a perfect score. It looked absolutely sexual, and it was truly a killer app for the dreamcast, so I have no choice but to put it ahead of all the other entries in the series.

Also, I *really* didn't like the gay "WALLS FOR EVERYONE!" mentality that went on after VF3 and DOA2. It broke both Tekken 4 and SC2 for me. It's still giving me grief in the otherwise rather brilliant Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection.

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Lollolololololollololololollollol. Double standards total. :P

I played only the first Soul Calibur, it was quite fun, I'm no fan of fighters and never bothered with the sequels.

It's not really a double standard. I thought VF5 was what my PS3 was for.. and if it were still exclusive I would definitely own that version already. I owned and loved SC3 too, despite being exclusive, I'm just saying I think that decision ultimately damaged the franchise.. or at the very least that installment of the game.

The game wasn't really any worse off for it (well, aside from the obvious lack of 720p -- a feature that made the Xbox version of SC2 far superior to that Link bs!) but it did have a dramatic impact on sales. Also.. they should have been quicker to release the arcade edition. I would prefer several revisions to an arcade game before the home port shows up.. getting version A sucks.

Also, I *really* didn't like the gay "WALLS FOR EVERYONE!" mentality that went on after VF3 and DOA2. It broke both Tekken 4 and SC2 for me. It's still giving me grief in the otherwise rather brilliant Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection.

Walls are great. :P At least there is a variety of arenas in mostly all of these games, offer walled in gameplay as well as the ring out variety. I like them both really.. walls introduce interesting mechanics, and ring out strategies have always been a personal favorite.

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Lollolololololollololololollollol. Double standards total. :P

I played only the first Soul Calibur, it was quite fun, I'm no fan of fighters and never bothered with the sequels.[/quote]

The game wasn't really any worse off for it (well, aside from the obvious lack of 720p -- a feature that made the Xbox version of SC2 far superior to that Link bs!) but it did have a dramatic impact on sales.  Also.. they should have been quicker to release the arcade edition.  I would prefer several revisions to an arcade game before the home port shows up.. getting version A sucks.

[quote]Also, I *really* didn't like the gay "WALLS FOR EVERYONE!" mentality that went on after VF3 and DOA2. It broke both Tekken 4 and SC2 for me. It's still giving me grief in the otherwise rather brilliant Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection.[/quote]

Walls are great. :P  At least there is a variety of arenas in mostly all of these games, offer walled in gameplay as well as the ring out variety.  I like them both really.. walls introduce interesting mechanics, and ring out strategies have always been a personal favorite.

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Walls introduce interesting mechanics to games that know to integrate them well, yeah. Both SC and Tekken simply have walls that.. STOP you, effectively also just stopping what the games have been about. Tell me you think SC2/3 work as well on arenas with walls as those without and you're LYING. :P

Admittedly it's not as game breaking as those in Tekken. T3/top tier characters in TTT were Tekken at its absolute best with an insane rush game equalled only by Third Strike. Then Tekken 4 arrives and delivers the most heartbreakingly slow poke-fest ever. As if bound by some kind of.. pride or whatever, Tekken 5 still has one feet in enclosed abominations for levels, but at least has the decency to provide the classic style of inexplicably endless arenas. In that sense, both games (T5/SC2) are let off the hook. You can at least play them the way you like.

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I actually prefer arenas a la SC2 that have both. The occasional wall combo is a welcome addition to the franchise.. and it make juggling all the more possible in a game that has air control.

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Soul Calibur is the only fighting game I like…and Raphael is the only character I like.

I still play Soul Calibur 2 today on a regular basis, I didn’t bother picking up SC3 though, I rented it however…but it just wasn’t as much fun as SC2; so yeah…that’s just my little story lol
Anyway, really looking forward to Soul Calibur 4…I wonder how much they have changed Raphael this time, along with Siegfried.

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Anyway, really looking forward to Soul Calibur 4…I wonder how much they have changed Raphael this time, along with Siegfried.

Siegfried and Nightmare were changed quite a bit in SC3, so I would expect them to follow path.. they'll probably both return as separate characters again.. and they'll probably do even more to differentiate the two.

I looove SC3 though. It's at least as much fun as SC2 and then some.. you really need to get into the new gameplay system and the character revisions quite a bit before it clicks again. It took me several hours of playing w/ Cassy before I realized just how much better she is in SC3.. and for me.. that makes the game as a whole much better :)

My initial impressions of SC3 weren't so glowing.. but after actually spending a reasonable amount of time with it, I think it's great.

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It could be b/c I’ve had been playing SC2 on my Xbox for so long…and 99.9% of the time, the only character I use is Raphael-- heck, I would even play for money! (not that I’ve already done that :p) lol
HOWEVER, if I can’t play as Raphael I’m in biiiig trouble, and I mean BIG! lol

To be honest though, I always forget about SC3 because I have my precious SC2.
I liked SC3--Raphael was good but they changed his design/face quite a bit, made him look older but at least he didn’t lose his sense of fashion ;). Anyway, I just absolutely love SC2. I’m not big fan of fighting games at all but SC is an exception. But that's just my opinion on the matter.

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Well, if you were going to pick one 3D fighting game to like.. I think you made a good choice :)

SC is a well rounded franchise and it has a lot to offer. My favorite Namco fighting game by quite a large margin.

Raphael is actually one of the few characters I've never put much time into.. so I'm not even fully aware of how he really changed in SC3. For the most part I really enjoyed the character revisions though.. plus the game feels different.. which is offsetting at first but imo it really grows on you quite a bit.

After playing SC3 it got difficult to move back to SC2, although I think both games hold up fairly well today.. that's mostly because I love Cassandra in SC3.. going back to playing w/ her in SC2 feels like such a massive downgrade.

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Be sure to pick up the new EGM week after next. Apparently they are going to reveal the new guest characters for the PS3 and 360 versions. A long with more info on the game
http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3160237

COMING SOON: Interviews with the developers.
COMING SOON: The exclusive reveal of SC4's special guest characters!

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Well hot damn, SCIV confirmed to have online mode.
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160573

Either way, the latest issue of EGM spills the beans: Soulcalibur IV will have online networking when it arrives on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 in 2008.

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Great news.. can't wait to see the new EGM.

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here's some tidbits from the EGM article, taken from GAF. I'm allowed to post this right?

- 60fps confirmed (we already knew that, though).
- Just to show how much detail they're putting into the visuals: "The leather straps on Ivy's thighs make real-time indentations into her skin as she fights."
- They're actually rendering Taki's nipples under her leotard. No, i'm not kidding.-ITAGAKI HAS BEEN 1UP'd!
- New fighters will be kept under wraps until closer to release.
- Guard Impact will be back.
- The stage backgrounds are very early, so remember that when screens are released.
- Stages will be far more interactive and play a part in the gameplay. They give an example of Zasalamel's clock tower.
- They're hoping to reduce ring-outs by making the stages much larger.-BOooo, and yeah!
- SC3 is the base they're starting from for balance reasons.
- Patching the game is possible if any issues come up, but "we don't intend to make a game that needs to be patched at a later date."
-The health gauge is going to be changed. There'll be a way to beat your opponent that doesn't involve the health gauge or ring-outs.-Interesting?
- No tag-team play.
- On Soul Calibur for the PSP: "We're happy to hear that players would like to see Soulcalibur on PSP, so we'll keep that in mind."-Just make it already you bastards!
- The Create-a-Soul mode is getting major improvements like being able to change your characters voice and certain customizations will have an effect on gameplay.
-Online custom character trading is a possibility, as well as bringing your custom character to a friends house.-Cool

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here's some tidbits from the EGM article, taken from GAF. I'm allowed to post this right?
[quote]- 60fps confirmed (we already knew that, though).
- Just to show how much detail they're putting into the visuals: "The leather straps on Ivy's thighs make real-time indentations into her skin as she fights."
- They're actually rendering Taki's nipples under her leotard. No, i'm not kidding.[b]-ITAGAKI HAS BEEN 1UP'd![/b]
- New fighters will be kept under wraps until closer to release.
- Guard Impact will be back.
- The stage backgrounds are very early, so remember that when screens are released.
- Stages will be far more interactive and play a part in the gameplay. They give an example of Zasalamel's clock tower.
- They're hoping to reduce ring-outs by making the stages much larger.[b]-BOooo, and yeah![/b]
- SC3 is the base they're starting from for balance reasons.
- Patching the game is possible if any issues come up, but "we don't intend to make a game that needs to be patched at a later date."
-The health gauge is going to be changed. There'll be a way to beat your opponent that doesn't involve the health gauge or ring-outs.[b]-Interesting?[/b]
- No tag-team play.
- On Soul Calibur for the PSP: "We're happy to hear that players would like to see Soulcalibur on PSP, so we'll keep that in mind."[b]-Just make it already you bastards![/b]
- The Create-a-Soul mode is getting major improvements like being able to change your characters voice and certain customizations will have an effect on gameplay.
-Online custom character trading is a possibility, as well as bringing your custom character to a friends house.[b]-Cool[/b][/quote]

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The Create-a-Soul mode is getting major improvements like being able to change your characters voice and certain customizations will have an effect on gameplay.

PLEASE let us record the voice with the MICS.........PLEASE!!!!

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[quote]The Create-a-Soul mode is getting major improvements like [b]being able to change your characters voice[b] and certain customizations will have an effect on gameplay.[/quote] PLEASE let us record the voice with the MICS.........PLEASE!!!!

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i never liked SC3, always felt it was a very basic upgrade, and not a great one at that, the added features felt limited (create a fighter) and i think it played WAY worse, i dunno who, SC1 and 2 where far better for me, but maybe thats cos they where still quite fresh games in my mind. the gap between SC1 and 2 was huge, then three came a year later and released with a sort of "oh another one" reaction from me.

as for this. im surprised there isnt more character speculation. i personally think kratos would own in soul calibur, not only does he fit in stylistically, but his weapons are a unique adition to the series, and finally there would be someone able to match kiliks range.

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i never liked SC3, always felt it was a very basic upgrade, and not a great one at that, the added features felt limited (create a fighter) and i think it played WAY worse, i dunno who, SC1 and 2 where far better for me, but maybe thats cos they where still quite fresh games in my mind. the gap between SC1 and 2 was huge, then three came a year later and released with a sort of "oh another one" reaction from me. as for this. im surprised there isnt more character speculation. i personally think kratos would own in soul calibur, not only does he fit in stylistically, but his weapons are a unique adition to the series, and finally there would be someone able to match kiliks range.

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26/06/2007 à 14:47:43

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blah, screw cameo characters.

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26/06/2007 à 15:08:53

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blah, screw cameo characters.
who mentioned kameo? as thats the only character i can see on 360 that would fit. granted it'd possibly suck, but it beats MC or baulder, or god forbid, marcus fenix. far too futuristic.

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[quote=GriftGFX]blah, screw cameo characters.[/quote] who mentioned kameo? as thats the only character i can see on 360 that would fit. granted it'd possibly suck, but it beats MC or baulder, or god forbid, marcus fenix. far too futuristic.

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who mentioned kameo? as thats the only character i can see on 360 that would fit. granted it'd possibly suck, but it beats MC or baulder, or god forbid, marcus fenix. far too futuristic.
he didn't mean the game Kameo, but cameo(guest)characters :P

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[quote=KORNdog] who mentioned kameo? as thats the only character i can see on 360 that would fit. granted it'd possibly suck, but it beats MC or baulder, or god forbid, marcus fenix. far too futuristic.[/quote] he didn't mean the game Kameo, but cameo(guest)characters :P

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SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET to the online thing CAN NOT WAIT!

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26/06/2007 à 15:23:39

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he didn't mean the game Kameo, but cameo(guest)characters :P
ah...lol, my bad.

i like cameo characters. Mr. tekken in SC2 was great, and despite lacking weapons fit in REALLY well and most importantly was balanced, as was link in the GC version. the xbox version was the only poor choice imo, spawn seems wrong, he played moderately ok, but just didnt fit imo.

i think kratos would be a great adition if done well. i'd prefare him, with his unique weapons, then yet ANOTHER character using yet ANOTHER variation of the sword. i mean, they've covered a lot, bows, knives, swords, axes, nun-chucks, but kratos has something new and something i think will work REALLY well. i know i'd prefare him to say, master chief with a plasma sword that'd be fucked up.

as long as their balanced i couldnt care less. and if their not, the simple fact they're in the game is a + point, becasue those who disslike them, dont use them. everyones happy.

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[quote=kenshin2418] he didn't mean the game Kameo, but cameo(guest)characters :P[/quote] ah...lol, my bad. i like cameo characters. Mr. tekken in SC2 was great, and despite lacking weapons fit in REALLY well and most importantly was balanced, as was link in the GC version. the xbox version was the only poor choice imo, spawn seems wrong, he played moderately ok, but just didnt fit imo. i think kratos would be a great adition if done well. i'd prefare him, with his unique weapons, then yet ANOTHER character using yet ANOTHER variation of the sword. i mean, they've covered a lot, bows, knives, swords, axes, nun-chucks, but kratos has something new and something i think will work REALLY well. i know i'd prefare him to say, master chief with a plasma sword that'd be fucked up. as long as their balanced i couldnt care less. and if their not, the simple fact they're in the game is a + point, becasue those who disslike them, dont use them. everyones happy.

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26/06/2007 à 15:29:47

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Taki rendering? Ivy straps? Oh God, I'm gonna lose it...

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26/06/2007 à 16:38:13

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I think the cameo character(s) are from Pirates of the Caribbean. At least that's the rumor.

I sure the fock hope not. GOD I hope not.

P-L-E-A-S-E Namco, don't do it.

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I think the cameo character(s) are from Pirates of the Caribbean. At least that's the rumor. I sure the fock hope not. GOD I hope not. P-L-E-A-S-E Namco, don't do it.

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