Project CARS 2 PS4 videos

KORNdog

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that AI mayhem video...lol

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Driftwood

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Posté par KORNdog

that AI mayhem video...lol

The problem is, that was already the case in the first game in such a scenario. That's why we had to show it, because the sequel has the very same AI problems and it's not acceptable. We gave it a pass for the first one, despite having experienced such crazy moments, but it should have been fixed. For starters, they should have made it impossible to push the number of drivers to 30 something on that track. It happens a lot less with just 20, though it still can occur.

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SplitTongue

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Slight Bad Studios did it again. I'll just skip this one.

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unknownuser0001

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With this AI it's unplayable...

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Sdarts

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EuroGamer's review - neutral - also shares many of the things you mentioned, it's worth a read if you have the time, but to resume:

"[About Project Cars 1] I should have loved it, but it never really clicked for me; the handling was unapproachable on a pad and inconsistent on a wheel, its career was a featureless grind and it was hard to shake the feeling in the months after its initial release that it wasn't quite complete."

"Some of these are known issues, and I've no doubt many of them will be addressed in the coming weeks or months, but know that on launch day Project Cars 2 is every bit as spotty as its predecessor. It's a shame, as it obscures an otherwise remarkable achievement from Slightly Mad Studios."

Project Cars 2 review:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-09-18-proje...

And from 2 users' comments:

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... Not picking this up at release.
'On a pad it's playable, at least'
Yeah not good enough. After struggling with the first one this should have been a main priority."

"Wanted to cry when I read about the qualifying times bug. The same thing hit me several times in PC1 and the need to see every boring qualifying session through to the end was a big part of what drove me to drop the game."

While I'm not invested in Project Cars 2, it seems like there's a very good game bogged down by many annoying design decisions and bugs. Which is always a real shame when developers don't take important feedback from a previous game to make a sequel better and/or don't fix bugs that were present in a prequel.

Though it's always their loss, since with time, more and more players will start moving away from the franchise and less and less inclined to give other sequels a chance, even if they deserve it.

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EuroGamer's review - neutral - also shares many of the things you mentioned, it's worth a read if you have the time, but to resume:

"[About Project Cars 1] I should have loved it, but it never really clicked for me; the handling was unapproachable on a pad and inconsistent on a wheel, its career was a featureless grind and it was hard to shake the feeling in the months after its initial release that it wasn't quite complete."

"Some of these are known issues, and I've no doubt many of them will be addressed in the coming weeks or months, [b]but know that on launch day Project Cars 2 is every bit as spotty as its predecessor. It's a shame, as it obscures an otherwise remarkable achievement from Slightly Mad Studios.[/b]"

Project Cars 2 review:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-09-18-project-cars-2-review

And from 2 users' comments:

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... Not picking this up at release.
'On a pad it's playable, at least'
Yeah not good enough. After struggling with the first one this should have been a main priority."

"Wanted to cry when I read about the qualifying times bug. The same thing hit me several times in PC1 and the need to see every boring qualifying session through to the end was a big part of what drove me to drop the game."

While I'm not invested in Project Cars 2, it seems like there's a very good game bogged down by many annoying design decisions and bugs. Which is always a real shame when developers don't take important feedback from a previous game to make a sequel better and/or don't fix bugs that were present in a prequel.

Though it's always their loss, since with time, more and more players will start moving away from the franchise and less and less inclined to give other sequels a chance, even if they deserve it.

Xoar

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Even with all it's problems it will still be miles ahead of what GTS or Forza 7 do in the coming months.

What wheels have you guys tested for this non review....how did they differ?

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Driftwood

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No wheels, ours is not compatible anymore with new consoles and we weren't given a PC review code (and our backer version of the game has been unavailable for 2 weeks now).

That being said, I clearly wouldn't say that PCARS 2 is still ahead of Forza and GT. The physics engine is just as broken as before, which cannot be forgiven this time around, and the bugs, glitches and AI problems prove SMS have done a quite a bad job this time. Sequels are supposed to be better, they're supposed to fix the problems of the previous game.

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Xoar

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I would never in a million years say GT5, 6, GTS Beta or Forza 6 have a better physics engine than PCars 1! Nevermind 2.

Guess we'l find out soon enough...You should get a decent wheel it might change your mind about the physics engine :)

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Driftwood

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Don't remember being able to sweep under cars in those games though. So yeah, nevermind.

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dohr07

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I dont't know what happend. But to me, you seem to be personally gutted.

The game is anything but a disaster! Yes, there are apparently minor bugs. And in no other test it is said that the game is bad or unplayable. On the contrary, 90% of the tests gave the game an A or B and it gets scores of over 85.
Great hits as the Witcher 3, Gran Turismo 5, Battlefield 1 or F1 2017 showed definitely much more bugs than PC2...

PS: like in the preview video - either your pad is broken, or you are unable to cope with the controls - but your driving style is horrible. It looks like if you never played a racing sim before. I mean - you missed nearly every apex of any corner.

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Xoar

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Don't remember being able to sweep under cars in those games though. So yeah, nevermind.

Ahh that's what you base a good physics engine on? Ok

Having played all 3 games with a wheel i can tell you PCars1 was so far ahead of them and AC again another massive leap up....for some reason Forza & GT games dont get the same level of scrutiny that other games face! I wonder why that is?

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Driftwood

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Good physics engine in a combination of many things, the example I have is one of them. Spare me the patronizing tone please, I'm too old for this shit and I've been playing car racing games for more than 35 years. Like I said their physics engine is broken, it can do great things but it's bugged on several levels and that annoys me. Good for you if you're content with it though, I'm not one to judge.

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Driftwood

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I'm not gutted. I'm being objective. Seeing the same problems than 2 years ago is making me very unhappy. I backed the game myself, with my own money, I'm entitled to be disappointed. To me, the game was rushed, there is no excuse when you're as big as SMS and Bandai Namco. It is nothing personal, but when you are cocky about a game you're working on, you should accept the backlash when it fails to convince. My opinion is that the game should not be purchased day one, or full price, for many good reasons, if yours differ, good for you, but there's more than enough good releases to come to bother with buggy ones.

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Xoar

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Posté par Driftwood

Good physics engine in a combination of many things, the example I have is one of them. Spare me the patronizing tone please, I'm too old for this shit and I've been playing car racing games for more than 35 years. Like I said their physics engine is broken, it can do great things but it's bugged on several levels and that annoys me. Good for you if you're content with it though, I'm not one to judge.

Well i guess il find out soon enough i will also be majorly disappointed if it's as bad as you make out and somehow regressed that much it is worse than Forza or GT.

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Driftwood

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Like I said, I'm still waiting to see what the final PC version will be like with a wheel. Same with the PS4 one if Fanatec actually sends us a wheel for review. I'll be more than happy to post another article saying the game is a lot better than a wheel. Now some of the things that have annoyed me will most likely still be there, wheel or not.

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KORNdog

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I dont't know what happend. But to me, you seem to be personally gutted.

The game is anything but a disaster! Yes, there are apparently minor bugs. And in no other test it is said that the game is bad or unplayable. On the contrary, 90% of the tests gave the game an A or B and it gets scores of over 85.

The likes of skyrim, fallout and assassins creed unity got scores like that too...sometimes jank games get good reviews.

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Melmoth

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The AI seems extremely advanced to me, like how it's adapting to and learning how the player drives :D j/k

A bit disappointed that they haven't fixed some of these things. Having a pc racing setup (wheel etc. not compatible with X1/PS4), as well as having an Oculus Rift, which the game supports, this game on pc with it's career mode was something i was thinking of spending some time with. I'll have to do some more research when more impressions (and reviews) turns up.

Being able to use VR is one of the main demands i have for a driving game, other than that physics and reasonable authentic feel to the handling is next. Having a good career is also high on the list.

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Xoar

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Posté par Melmoth

The AI seems extremely advanced to me, like how it's adapting to and learning how the player drives :D j/k

A bit disappointed that they haven't fixed some of these things. Having a pc racing setup (wheel etc. not compatible with X1/PS4), as well as having an Oculus Rift, which the game supports, this game on pc with it's career mode was something i was thinking of spending some time with. I'll have to do some more research when more impressions (and reviews) turns up.

Being able to use VR is one of the main demands i have for a driving game, other than that physics and reasonable authentic feel to the handling is next. Having a good career is also high on the list.

Reviews are out there today...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/proje...

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GunsnSwords

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After watching the Crew 2 it has everyone beat graphically. well i haven't seen much of Forza 7's tracks but The Crew 2 looks better than Forza 5 and 6, GTSport and Project Cars.

Forza 7 by comparison though has like 700 highly detailed cars and an endless campaign mode. (as always) so that works in Forza's favor. Also Forza is a pretty classy franchise.

also After watching Project Cars 2 (ps4), i think GT sport has better car physics and AI.

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