Halo 3: Screenshot & Movies Thread

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Screenshots taken in this photo mode are rendered in 1080p and AA'd.
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Posté par mkk316
The game in those screens do look quite nice i must admit. I dont see the horrible jaggies people are talking about.
the screens dont show them for some reason, but the game has them by the shed load. everything has a jagged edge.
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Posté par mkk316
The game in those screens do look quite nice i must admit. I dont see the horrible jaggies people are talking about.
Photo mode > gameplay. The aliasing is really bad.
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No, you are wrong. Only photos from the cinema mode are either 720p or 1080p. The game itself doesn't even render at 720p. Maybe it's 600p or something, but it's lower than 720p. The graphics are disappointing. Not because of the art direction. Everything looks fine. But you notice immediatly that the game runs at a low resolution, because of all the horrible jaggies and sometimes it's just hard to notice the details (i find it hard to watch the lips from a speaking characters that stays beside you). The game has no AF and no AA. The lack of AF is really hard, because HALO 3 provides some nice textures. But it seems as a waste, because if you don't stand in front of something the textures looks mostly blured. I even wouldn't care about AA, but the resolution lower than 720p and the lack of AF make it underwhelming from a technical point. It's really a big shame for bungie that a first party with that big reputation isn't able to deliver 720p or AA. Everybody spends lots of money for an HDTV and Microsoft is advertising it's NextGen console for HD gaming, but bungie isn't even able to deliver the minimum for NextGen gaming: HD. I don't even talk about AA or something. I really like the way HALO 3 looks and the MC looks at least as a good as a character from GoW like Marcus. But the game provide nothing stunning or technical superior that would justify the lack of at least 720p or 2xAA. And beside the lack of these points, the game only runs at 30FPS and even that isn't rock stable.
Don't get me wrong, the game is awesome and i am playing it at legendary. The music is awesome, the AI is awesome (at legendary), the lighting is awesome. Everything is harmoniously. But the graphics are a little disappointing from a technical level (i don't talk about the content or art direction).
Whatever you feel about the graphics, they don't run at 600p. It's a 720p game. Show me a framebuffer grab from a devkit at 600p and I might change my mind but there would have had to have been one hell of a downgrade from when I last saw it.

Hell at 600p they get 2xAA for free on the EDRAM.

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who cares about technical or superior graphics its a game, it looks great plays great and i fully enjoyed everything it had to offerhad the energy

now...if i only the energy to sort out some cool vids from last night :D

My comments on this game/machine been good or bad does not mean i like/hate the machine i am not a fan nor a hater, just i have a opinion and wish to share it.

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Good post deft..

I've seen no evidence that the game doesn't render in 720p and I believe it would be easy for anyone with a devkit to check. And the visuals aren't disappointing at all.. the image quality is.

Hard to believe anyone thought this was 60fps though.
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Whatever you feel about the graphics, they don't run at 600p. It's a 720p game. Show me a framebuffer grab from a devkit at 600p and I might change my mind but there would have had to have been one hell of a downgrade from when I last saw it.

Hell at 600p they get 2xAA for free on the EDRAM.
It appears Halo 3 isn't 720p :| (A gentleman at B3D uses his large 1080p HDTV and a good quality digicam to capture shots and then stair steps the jaggies... you may be shocked to know how many 360 and PS3 games are not 720p) Bungie are using multiple "exposures" (renders) for HDR and are not only using FP10 so the bit depth eats up more space. And there is also performance.

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I'm not that shocked....Oblivion wasn't 720p in widescreen either and next to nobody knows that :P

If that's the same guy who did the same thing with Lair (960 x 1080 stretched horizontally) then damn. How reliable is it doing that at 1080p though given that image is already being scaled by ANA?

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You look at macro blocks. You will get stepping like 3:2 instead of 1:1 and such. It is all about ratios, and at high resolutions (notably the camera) you can mark off the macro blocks and then step them.

Yeah, Lair was using MSAA on a half vertical buffer and then stretching it... and it looked like crap. They would have been better off at 720p with AA and then scaling.

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^^
now we're talking. thats a cool shot.
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how do u record clips????mine wont let me
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You look at macro blocks. You will get stepping like 3:2 instead of 1:1 and such. It is all about ratios, and at high resolutions (notably the camera) you can mark off the macro blocks and then step them.
http://upsilandre.free.fr/images/Halo3nativereso.j...
http://upsilandre.free.fr/images/Halo3nativeresoco...

And here was how it was determined. Definately not 720p, and definately no MSAA.

I will give Bungie this: They did something I wish more devs would do: work on the lighting model. That said, AF *really* needs to be upped. MSAA, as much as I love it, it is 2ndary to AF. At 1138x640 you would hope for both.

With how much a couple posters railed against PGR3 (2xMSAA at 1024x600ish) you know (or do we?) that they will rail against Halo at a similar resolution and no MSAA at all.

Nice to see the photomode doing nice bullshots though :) Some look killer!

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Oh God, here we go with the fuzzy math, which some idiot on a videogame forum posted, and you automatically take his word. This clueless twit has no idea what he's talking about. He can come up with any silly statistics he wants. Bungie confirmed it was 720p native. The Beta was most certainly 720p native. Bungie developers over at NeoGAF also confirmed 720p. I've played it and it is definitely 720p. End of story. Funny math from some idiot on a forum doesn't prove crap.

Not only that, the game looks great and is a fantastic game. Go try to tear something down worth tearing down. This is not the game you're looking for.
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HOW DO U RECORD CLIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HOW DO U RECORD CLIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!
havent tried on multiplayer vids, but you definately can't on campaign vids (ATM)
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Here's mine so far...




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Ace: can't someone with access to framebuffer grabs easily just confirm the resolution? If so -- I demand the proof :)
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Scar is that really in gameplay you paused it at? if so, damn that looks awesome.
Looks so realistic, like a movie and chief is standing there.
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Scar is that really in gameplay you paused it at? if so, damn that looks awesome.
Looks so realistic, like a movie and chief is standing there.
This is what i was talking about in the other thread, the film mode lets you see the game in away you could never see it before, it shows just how much has gone into this game's visuals, It really is a masterpiece.
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AA is added as soon as you take a photo, so it looks silky smooth, but all the lighting and effect are all as they are in the game.

yeah, the film mode really makes you appreciate how good this game really looks.
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You might not be able to believe this question but honestly, How do you take pictures btw?

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Posté par Jin187
You might not be able to believe this question but honestly, How do you take pictures btw?
i cant believe that question:P
you can only do it through film mode. pause (press A), then press X and choose the screen shot option.
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i cant believe that question:P
you can only do it through film mode. pause (press A), then press X and choose the screen shot option.
Lol, thanks!

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Jin I have seen like images from people that have taking VERY professional way and it shows how much crappy screenshots Bungie was releaing all the time compared to the users.

They go into angles and all that that really shows how cool Halo 3 looks.

Now I am giving it positive comments about it, because its true, but I am still not buying it.
Its something about the game that doesnt appeal to me to buy it and play it, one of them is the gameplay.
Ironic, I know :P

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