Game of Thrones Season 7: Winter Came (and so did I) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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So I have to assume some things from this season so far. One of which I think is a weird character change and one that might be an obvious tell. I'll make the prediction first-
At this point I think Tyrion is still in contact with Jaime. Tyrion is supposed to be the smart one here and he's served up two losses for Dany in just 3 or so episodes. It's weird to me
that he's losing so easily, so I think he's still allied with his fam.
The other thing just sorta bothers me. Why is Dany all queenly now all of a sudden? They pushed her character in a way that doesn't feel natural at all. I realize they need to make a lot of progress here to push the story but it feels forced.
Either that or Emilia Clark really is that bad of an actress.
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So I have to assume some things from this season so far. One of which I think is a weird character change and one that might be an obvious tell. I'll make the prediction first-
At this point I think Tyrion is still in contact with Jaime. Tyrion is supposed to be the smart one here and he's served up two losses for Dany in just 3 or so episodes. It's weird to me
that he's losing so easily, so I think he's still allied with his fam.
The other thing just sorta bothers me. Why is Dany all queenly now all of a sudden? They pushed her character in a way that doesn't feel natural at all. I realize they need to make a lot of progress here to push the story but it feels forced.
Either that or Emilia Clark really is that bad of an actress.
Sansa, Arya, and Danny are WAY too bitchy acting this season. In fact, Cersei seems the calm one in comparison. I also think Danny has a traitor in her small council. It seems like Cersei knew their plans in advance both times!
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This is the first time I'm joining the weekly festivities since season 1, I thought "there are 7 episodes so why not?" My weeks fly by so fast by way of being rammed with shit to do that the wait is no longer as unbearable as it used to be.
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So I have to assume some things from this season so far. One of which I think is a weird character change and one that might be an obvious tell. I'll make the prediction first-
At this point I think Tyrion is still in contact with Jaime. Tyrion is supposed to be the smart one here and he's served up two losses for Dany in just 3 or so episodes. It's weird to me
that he's losing so easily, so I think he's still allied with his fam.
I guess the question we ask here is what has Tyrion ever orchestrated that resulted in a singular victory? Every one of Tyrion's wins have actually been heavily influenced by outside forces. He's actually had more spectacular losses than he has incredible victories. He is charismatic and has at least +90 speech on his stat board, but he is the definition of lucky bastard; he may be short but his run of luck stands tall above notorious luckmongerers such as Cpt. Jack Sparrow and Master Chief Petty Officer John-117.

I like the theory though and it could be interesting, just not sure what the pay-off could be.
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The other thing just sorta bothers me. Why is Dany all queenly now all of a sudden? They pushed her character in a way that doesn't feel natural at all. I realize they need to make a lot of progress here to push the story but it feels forced.
Either that or Emilia Clark really is that bad of an actress.
She's an awful actress.

That and you have to ask yourself, if you'd been planning a trip for years and the excitement got to you, your parents said "behave you shit child or you're not going" and you somewhat obeyed but not really just enough to actually go on the trip. Obviously the day comes and in your excitement you pack everything, get ready and head out the door on some long arse journey and when you finally touch boots at your destination the first thing you think of is "I really need to piss".

Excuse the crappy metaphor, but that's what I believe Dany's character is supposed to be doing. She's wanted to lick shit from grimy Westeros for so long that she took any help she could get, and when she bagged Varys warts and all she could taste that bowl of brown in fleabottom so hard that she said "nah, y'know what I got views but I'll hold". She's just pissing on everyone because she can take a shit in her own house now, I'm a bit iffy when taking a dump in other people's houses so I understand her relief.

The real reason is everything just has to happen now. They can't really tip-toe any longer as they have fewer than 15 episodes now until the show is done; it's all payoff and it's all action. No time for deep penetration, it's dry humps all the way.

My favourite part of tonight's episode was Sansa all: "Yeah you're fucking weird find your own way inside."
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Daenarys has been acting bitchy for a while now, this is nothing new. She's got dragons and people like her more than the Lannisters so that makes her the best in her mind.

I'm kinda hoping for a scene where a dragon comes down and is like "Oh hey what's good mah dude" to Jon Snow, since he's her nephew. Be pretty funny about her being all "I have the only right to rule" and turns out he's got a much stronger claim.

Tonight's episode was great though, so much happened. Really, really, really wish this was the last season and we were just getting 14 episodes. I don't really want this to be over in 4 eps, just to be waiting again.
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Daenarys has been acting bitchy for a while now, this is nothing new. She's got dragons and people like her more than the Lannisters so that makes her the best in her mind.

I'm kinda hoping for a scene where a dragon comes down and is like "Oh hey what's good mah dude" to Jon Snow, since he's her nephew. Be pretty funny about her being all "I have the only right to rule" and turns out he's got a much stronger claim.

Tonight's episode was great though, so much happened. Really, really, really wish this was the last season and we were just getting 14 episodes. I don't really want this to be over in 4 eps, just to be waiting again.
I agree this season should be the last 13 episodes, but we know HBO wants to stretch this out as long as they can. On top of that, we have to wait until 2019 to see the final 6 episodes. My guess it gives them enough time to have a (or several) Game of Thrones spin off series already to air the following season. HBO loves that Game of Thrones money.
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This is the first time I'm joining the weekly festivities since season 1, I thought "there are 7 episodes so why not?" My weeks fly by so fast by way of being rammed with shit to do that the wait is no longer as unbearable as it used to be.
Welcome back Tiz, anyway I feel Tyrion plan was a good one, unfortunately for him Euron Greyjoy happened. Not only that, there has to be a traitor in Dany's small council. Tinks thinks it's Tyrion. I think it may be Varys. We could both be wrong. We'll find out......eventually. Oh yeah, I loved that Sansa & Brandon scene too. It was brilliantly awkward, with a dash of creepiness. I loved it!
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Brandon is another character they changed to further the story.
In his time since escaping the white walkers did he really need to become some monotone robot? Was just awkward

The only character development I really find interesting this season is Jaime so far. Emotionally he's having to witness so much destruction and death now, the shows done a good job showing that. I guess it always has.
I think he's destined to kill his sister/lover, there's a lot of scenes where he's just realizing how fucked up she is now. Once a king slayer always a king slayer

But yeah I think Tyrion is still allied with Jaime. I'll be curious to see if it's true. I also think now that the Tyrell admitted to killing Geoffrey it adds a new wrinkle and he's been cleared for his earlier crime if that matters to Cersei.
I don't buy that Tyrion has always lost shit in the past. His character was billed as someone brilliant in comparison to the rest of his family. It doesn't make sense that he'd serve up so much.

Dany has always been kinda bitchy I agree - but when she's asking people to bend the knee and shit it just doesn't come off well.
That's the bad acting maybe like Tiz and I are speaking on.

People like Varys and Little Finger seem to be falling to the wayside and Euron is just a tool to push the narrative too IMO.
The show is getting rave reviews this season but I can't help but see all this glaring shit.
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Yeah, she had some big balls on her. Like Majin Vegeta, she went out like a str8 G.
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It is hard to believe on white walkers and the night king with dragons flying over my head.

Make sense lol
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It's a spoiler that she uses the dragons because you can count the times she has used her dragons on one hand. Which is about 3. The show deliberately blue balls the audience for dragon usage and it is something viewers look forward to in all its rarity.

The fact that it happens at the very end of tonight's episode compounds the fact it is a spoiler.
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Hm?

But I believe this episode builds on my belief that Tyrion is maybe a traitor among Dany's council.
I'll be curious to see if he's a straight up traitor, or if he just still loves his fam tragically



I watched a vid recap that was interesting on Youtube. I missed it but I guess Tarley mentions that all the gold makes it to Kings Landing.
That the caravan being blown up is a fraction of the army, and they're just carrying all the food.
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It's a spoiler that she uses the dragons because you can count the times she has used her dragons on one hand. Which is about 3. The show deliberately blue balls the audience for dragon usage and it is something viewers look forward to in all its rarity.

The fact that it happens at the very end of tonight's episode compounds the fact it is a spoiler.
True, but the other reason is it's very expensive. Last night's episode was shot like a movie....a blockbuster movie. I would be posting a ton of gifs now, but my PC just ghosted on me. Oh well, I put tonight's episode up there with Battle of the Bastards.
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Battle of the Bastards is still the best, for length of time and for the stakes that were at play. Plus the payoff was better seeing Ramsay's fate
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Battle of the Bastards is still the best, for length of time and for the stakes that were at play. Plus the payoff was better seeing Ramsay's fate
I say it's a tie. We kind of figured Ramsay was gonna meet his fate. We just didn't know how? Tonight's episode.....I had no idea how that battle was gonna turn out. It was intense.
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Best episode of Game of Thrones is still Hardhome. For everything it did, for actually not only meeting, but surpassing - and by a long margin - all the expectations of how the Night King and White Walkers would be.

After years reading the books and years watching the TV show, it was one of the most impactful moments in the whole series. Up there with the Red Wedding - which is probably the second best episode.

Battle of the Bastards was probably the third best episode in the series. Either way, Game of Thrones is epic and whichever episode is the best, doesn't matter since almost all episodes are great.

The Spoils of War is a truly epic episode, stopped breathing for a minute or so, I just realized it at the end when the credits rolled in. But not just the end, the whole episode was great - the sparring between Arya and Brienne; the reunions of the Starks; Daenerys finally believing John; Meera's really sad goodbye "You died in that cave."; John, Ser Davos and Missandei's conversation, etc. It was the equivalent of a normal season's ninth episode.

At first I was very angry that we would be getting 8 episodes insterad of 10 this season, then after finding out that the producers urther reduced to 7 episodes, I was really disappointed. But reducing the episode count really helped every episode this season be great. Which if it continues - and even gets better - as the season goes on, will make this one of the best seasons of Game of Thrones.

PS. Next episode, "Eastwatch", promises to be great.
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I think the reduction is why every battle happens instantly regardless of where it is. It's feeling kinda rushed IMO
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Hm?

But I believe this episode builds on my belief that Tyrion is maybe a traitor among Dany's council.
I'll be curious to see if he's a straight up traitor, or if he just still loves his fam tragically
I was just outlining why Dany using her dragons in yesterday's episode is a spoiler and why it shouldn't be mentioned in the chatbox because of how unfair it is to people who haven't watched it.

To speak to your point about Tyrion though:

With how fast everything is happening I think it is now either he actually is handing info to Jamie or the writers are doubling down on Tyrion's blunders to ensure Dany trusts him less as it probably wouldn't have happened any other way.

Also, stay weird, Bran. Goddamn drone beep boop motherfucker.
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To me it is working fine, and many of the stories are starting to get finished or moving close to the finish line. The Spoils of War was just 51 minutes long, may seem like a lot, but the other 3 episodes were over 1 hour long, if I'm remembering correctly. So I'm sure there were many scenes cut in edit in order to keep the pace of the episode.

The least great episode this season was The Queen's Justice, which I wish they had cut a few scenes off and extended the battle scenes longer, like showing more of the Casterly Rock battle and the naval battle at the sea up close. Plus Fire meeting Ice after so many years of expectation was very disappointing, even looking at it without all that baggage, the meeting itself and the conversations were quite underwhelming. Understandably since both were very wary of each other at first, not knowing who the other was and if he/she should trust her/him.

This is one of the things that The Spoils of War got right and what makes it such a great episopde. It was quite interesting hearing Ser Davos telling John that he - John - fancied Daenerys, which John comically dismissed it immediately. While it was a short episode - by Game of Thrones' standards, it still had many slow moments that were quite nice.

Another thing that was masterful was the fact that when Daenerys went with John into the dragonglass cave, Tyrion wasn't there, I remember thinking how seemingly insignificant, but important it was to let their relationship grow a little bit by their personalities alone, without needing to have Tyrion there. Was a very considerate restraint, that I definitely appreciated.

I don't feel like it's rushed - except for the Casterly Rock's land and naval battles, it feels like the producers cut a lot of extra things that would probably have dragged things down a bit. The Spoils of War's end was over 15 minutes long - preparation and battle. The battle itself was over 12 minutes long - uninterrupted.
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Tyrion, from what the "Sneak Peek"of the next episode showed, is still loyal to Daenerys. Though he is starting to doubt if Daenerys is the right ruler he once thought she was, since she is showing a few signs of "tyranny".

I don't want to go into spoilers of the next episode, for those that don't watch the sneak peeks segments, so I will just put 1 line that Varys tells Tyrion (I put spoiler tags for those who don't want to know absolutely anything):

"You need to find a way to make her listen."

So clearly it isn't just Tyrion who is finding Daenerys' behaviour strange. Probably has something to do with: "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Which Game of Thrones has touched upon this subject many times in the past.
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