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Fans can rejoice ! We are now June 12th, 2008 (in Europe at least :p) and Metal Gear Solid 4 is officially available in every good shop of the civilized world. About our traditionnal First 10 Minutes, we offer you the long introduction cut-scene of the game as well as three gameplay clips from the 1st Act. The shorter one showcases some combat in the streets of the Bagdad-like city you start your journey in, the second one a memorable attack of the Frogs - very powerful bionic foes that jump like frogs and walk on the walls - in an abandoned hotel, and finally a moderately discreet sneaking sequence in Liquid's camp. Enjoy !
Update2: All the files are finally online.

Snoopers - Gameboy
Snoopers
Commented on 2008-06-13 14:33:53 In reply to szaromir
Posted by szaromir
I don't have the game and I haven't played it. That said, it doesn't change the fact that a lot of enemies get slaughtered in that video, COD4 style. You don't have things like that in Thief.
MGS4 is not Thief. The game offers a lot of various experiences, and this particular sequence was quite fun to play.
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szaromir
szaromir
Commented on 2008-06-13 14:51:13 In reply to Snoopers
Posted by DJmizuhara
Thats just 1 way of playing it, you can play this game in a stealth mode and not go out guns blazing COD4 style. People need to remember that this game is a tactical/stealth/shooter not just a shooter.
That's cool, then. Can you play that section without pulling a trigger at all, though?
Posted by Snoopers
MGS4 is not Thief. The game offers a lot of various experiences, and this particular sequence was quite fun to play.
Does it mean other sections are not fun to play? :P
Still, if it's not like Thief and instead it focuses on different activities, perhaps it shouldn't be called a stealth game and it should be put in the same category as, for example, Second Sight which blends stealth elements with more mechanics? (I'm not saying it's like Second Sight)
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Crazyglues
Crazyglues
Commented on 2008-06-13 15:52:27
This game is amazing and I'm loving it, I've been playing all day and it's amazing
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spacemanjupiter
spacemanjupiter
Commented on 2008-06-13 16:25:11
I expected far more from this game. There is hardly any depth to textures or objects, low res(for textures), low poly counts for environments, and the animations are just horrible. In my opinion, they certainly should have spent more time on gameplay and less time on movies. After all, this is supposed to be a video game.
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Tomarru
Tomarru
Commented on 2008-06-13 16:48:17
I dunno, the gfx engine is very mixed, in places it looks very impressive, in other places it looks hideous, i've also noticed quite a lot of slowdown, particularly in cutscenes when theres a lot on screen (the liquid ocelot with all the fighting soldiers, the cutscene where the boss chars are introduced).
The cutscenes seem to be getting even longer and more often now, at the end of act 1 theres a 20 min scene followed by a 3 min install followed by another 20 - 30 min scene.
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LEBATO
Commented on 2008-06-13 19:20:09 In reply to RuneX
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Posted by RuneX
To the guy who asked if the game was worth the purchase, im about 5 hours in, have hated every MGS game to date, have lots of issues with this version even 5 hours in, and would still reccomend it to anyone with a PS3.

The graphics are not perfect, they do look really good, but it seems a bit bland to me. It suffers from most of the issues NG2 seems to aside from framerate inconsistancy. Some areas are nice, some are boring, animations are iffy at times too.

As I and others have mentioned, the AI is terrible, but thats only on the easiest setting. I think they really did a disservice by all but removing the AI on the easiest mode. Just adding health and reducing damage would have been enough, but instead I can walk up to people who are supposed to be after me and point a gun in thier face, then shoot before they get mad. Its utterly unacceptable for a game thats rated M(Cero 17 or whatever here in japan).

To the people who think the cutscenes add to the flow, I disagree. While they are pretty, as mentioned before, they are really drawn out. I shouldnt be falling asleep during cutscenes when im playing in the middle of the afternoon. Im a big fan of cutscenes in games, espeically RPGs, but the ones in this game just dont seem to have any relevance to anything.(such as the one in the beggining when thier diving or the eggs in a pan. Hopefully this doesnt spoil anything)

The audio also seems to be hit and miss, with the music basically not being there or being really boring. The sound effects are top tier though and some of the humor so far is kinda funny.

Basically, while only 5 hours in, Ive felt that the gameplay is really fun but the things surrounding it are tedious, boring, and overly drawn out. Its like they forced too much into the game and it hurts it imo. However, based on the gameplay alone Id still say it was a worthy purchase and as mentioned, would suggest it to anyone with a PS3. Would I have bought a PS3 for the game, as someone who has hated every MGS to date, I would say no for myself. Even if I was a fan though, Id probably say its not good enough to warrant a console purchase. Thier are better reasons to own a PS3.

Edit: MGS Online caused me some issues as well and is far from perfect. Played for a short time in practice modes but it took over 3 hours just to set it up(differant time from the main game) This is because it literally killed my PS3 when it tried to update and I had to restore the database and reinstall it multiple times. The once I get in, it had me register but that got all bogged down and annoying. Once I got on, I felt like it was a very limited experience. Paying for more characters? Very limited stages? not a very diverse selection for the character creation either. However, there were a lot of really nice options and I saw a lot of room for future growth so I have hopes for it. I only played the trial practice matches, so I cant judge the actual online gameplay yet(nor could I with about 1hour of actual playtime online to begin with) But so far its not been a pleasant experience online. Sony really should have a universal login system like live, it really goes a long way imo.
WTF!!!! You stupid comments, what graphics weaknesses!!!?
You can play a crippled online mode!

I hate you and your arrogant comments!!! Whatever, IGN said it was worth 11/10! In fact, they also said DOAX was 9/10! And they also said that Commandos is better--scored--on the PS3! And.......

*starts crying*
I expected far more from this game. There is hardly any depth to textures or objects, low res(for textures), low poly counts for environments, and the animations are just horrible. In my opinion, they certainly should have spent more time on gameplay and less time on movies. After all, this is supposed to be a video game.
Oh you little!
I dunno, the gfx engine is very mixed, in places it looks very impressive, in other places it looks hideous, i've also noticed quite a lot of slowdown, particularly in cutscenes when theres a lot on screen (the liquid ocelot with all the fighting soldiers, the cutscene where the boss chars are introduced).
The cutscenes seem to be getting even longer and more often now, at the end of act 1 theres a 20 min scene followed by a 3 min install followed by another 20 - 30 min scene.
vspectra06
vspectra06
Commented on 2008-06-13 20:03:00
I almost thought you were serious. :p

I would have to agree that most of cutscenes are drawn out for too long. The dialogue could have easily gotten to the point much quicker, but the characters just ramble on and on about next to nothing.
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Inflatable
Inflatable
Commented on 2008-06-13 20:08:41
Tbh I'm not that impressed by the graphics.. It looks worse while in gameplay, and anno 2008 the gameplay graphics of MSG4 are not special anymore.. Maybe if this was released in 2006 or something..

I'd also rather play some good co-op game then this..
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Commented on 2008-06-13 20:08:55
Finished the game, LOVED it!
My GOTY, sorry NG2, but you dissapointed a bit.
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dasrtist85
dasrtist85
Commented on 2008-06-13 21:53:18
I am sorry to say this is a great game that really is an amazing time but I would rather play NG2 that is like in alot of ways the opposite of ways such as the fact that NG2's main focus is on ai and gameplay, that seems to be a secondary focus to MGS4 which main focus is its story and cutscenes that really. But this is just a matter of opinion it is just that (imo) no game out there seems to have the action of NG2 not even the former titles come close.
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jmd749
jmd749
Commented on 2008-06-13 22:07:49
i give it 10/10, and most of the reasons i love it are covered in the ign review who also gave it 10/10 btw, so i shan't bother listing reasons, just check out the ign review.
a very very good contender for GOTY, but i still have my eyes open for resistance 2 later this year.:D
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hotkirby
hotkirby
Commented on 2008-06-13 22:50:54
this game is really awesome but........in some point the reviewers are really overhypt.
the game looks good but sometimes just oke(because of empty environments)and other times(when battling in busy streets or in the snow against the frog and especially the in-game movies)just drop dead gorgeous.

and second the gameplay is awesome but there are just thing that are over-rust like shooting in first person that could use some good fine tuning.

and then is the ai that is sometimes not only disappointing but gets (at least me) you sometimes out of the game.
because you get the most spectacular intro of a enemy doing all crazy shit.
but in the game it nothing near the awesomeness in the movie.

but if you are a true metal gear fan (like me)you dont care for those issues.
but here is my point ....i think a reviewer should a have a clear view of the game and my not have any preference or be a fan of a game.
because a review is made for people to see if it is worth buying and what is good and what not.
so a 10 out of 10 is really out of place(just like halo 3).

but the game is awesome in my eyes and a worthy curtain closer.
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Contra
Contra
Commented on 2008-06-14 01:09:29 In reply to szaromir
Posted by szaromir
Does it mean other sections are not fun to play? :P
Still, if it's not like Thief and instead it focuses on different activities, perhaps it shouldn't be called a stealth game and it should be put in the same category as, for example, Second Sight which blends stealth elements with more mechanics? (I'm not saying it's like Second Sight)
It doesn't work quite like that. In MGS, you have the option to use either full stealth, stealth mixed with action, or all action. It's that freedom of the fact that as soon as you get caught the game isn't over. But the game focuses primarily on stealth and using it to your advantages. In every MGS game there will always be an action sequence or two to break up the stealth moments. The fact that the games have boss fights also helps to break up stealth moments at times. Also, from what I've heard in interviews and reviews, just like every other MGS game you can go through the entire thing without killing a single person.
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pantyhelmet
pantyhelmet
Commented on 2008-06-14 06:26:06 In reply to Xion4360
as one of the few on this board who actually played/completed this game.. my expectations were exceeded..I played in HD: UNCHARTED has been surpassed Graphically, Gameplay is FUN and varied (i sniped most enemies with tranqs) EVERY mystery solved, all loose ends tied..i was never a big MGS fan before, I am now.
Posted by Xion4360
ive seen the game through to the end now, and im very dissapointed...i could say the gameplay is average at best in comparison to Gears/COD4/ ect..but unfortunately, there is so little gameplay here that i cant even take this seriously as a game...this is an interactive movie...i thought the framerate was going to be 60 but its not, it goes from 30fps up to 60 when little is going on, and while it does look very good, its nothing really impressive..the hype didnt do this game any good, my expectations were very high and i got a movie instead of a game..interesting movie tho
Why are you lying about playing this game?
its a small world wide web.
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RuneX
RuneX
Commented on 2008-06-14 11:50:08
@Lebato Huh........I cant tell if your joking or serious in your comments. If your serious, then I really pity you.

Anyways, about halfway done now, still feel the same. Good game, but surely not some AAA perfect masterpiece.
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Xion4360
Xion4360
Commented on 2008-06-14 23:55:51 In reply to pantyhelmet
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Posted by pantyhelmet
Why are you lying about playing this game?
its a small world wide web.
who the hell are you? because if your God, then WTF are you doing in the internet. I played the entire game overnight, and the morning after on the easy level, took 18 hours. Now go mind your own buisness.
pantyhelmet
pantyhelmet
Commented on 2008-06-15 00:47:57 In reply to Xion4360
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Posted by Xion4360
who the hell are you? because if your God, then WTF are you doing in the internet. I played the entire game overnight, and the morning after on the easy level, took 18 hours. Now go mind your own buisness.
its a small world wide web..this isn't the only web site you browse, no? You've said nothing, zero, nada, about the game that anyone who reads reviews couldn't come up with. you didn't state your final "rank", theres a LOT of new and interesting game play mechanics, yet you fail to mention any of them..because you only know whats been revealed to the public.. You don't mention a favorite locale, boss battle, anything remotely linking you to this game..i'm no god, but it doesn't take a deity to see through your fanboy hate of this game..let it go, the success or failure of a PS3 exclusive will not be decided on your fake micro review. Those who play it will see for themselves what the truth is.
Xion4360
Xion4360
Commented on 2008-06-15 01:31:10 In reply to pantyhelmet
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Posted by pantyhelmet
its a small world wide web..this isn't the only web site you browse, no? You've said nothing, zero, nada, about the game that anyone who reads reviews couldn't come up with. you didn't state your final "rank", theres a LOT of new and interesting game play mechanics, yet you fail to mention any of them..because you only know whats been revealed to the public.. You don't mention a favorite locale, boss battle, anything remotely linking you to this game..i'm no god, but it doesn't take a deity to see through your fanboy hate of this game..let it go, the success or failure of a PS3 exclusive will not be decided on your fake micro review. Those who play it will see for themselves what the truth is.
youre pathetic, really pathetic, im not here to write a review, im here to read and discuss. Why should i post a shit load of spoilers? like that certain Character from MGS3 that is not dead, and that certain Person who we all know and love who will be responsible for a world wide epidemic. why dont you get your head out of your ass, and realize that not everyone would agree with this game being the next coming of jesus, and try to discredit them for not calling it the all mighty game. Oh and my fav character is laughing beauties ass..thats who.
blmbox
blmbox
Commented on 2008-06-15 02:00:07
Disappointed this hasn't come to the 360, seeing as I don't have a PS3 ... It really does like a great game, like all MGS games really.

Problem is no other game on the PS3 (besides Little Big Planet to an extent) looks good, so this is really the only game that interests me at all on the PS3. I don't think i'd spend my money on a PS3 just to buy one game, as great as it does look. Got plenty of games to look forward to on my 360 though such as Gears 2, Fable 2 and co. Hey, maybe they'll port this to the 360 one day? ;)

Still, looks brilliant and certainly a GOTY contender.
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DrebinPoints
DrebinPoints
Commented on 2008-06-15 08:27:50
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So much hate on this board, wow.
Posted by Xion4360
youre pathetic, really pathetic, im not here to write a review, im here to read and discuss. Why should i post a shit load of spoilers? like that certain Character from MGS3 that is not dead, and that certain Person who we all know and love who will be responsible for a world wide epidemic. why dont you get your head out of your ass, and realize that not everyone would agree with this game being the next coming of jesus, and try to discredit them for not calling it the all mighty game. Oh and my fav character is laughing beauties ass..thats who.
Whats wrong with this board? Good god, if this was announced for the 360 tomorrow, the winds of change will flow through this board and people will say, "i'll get the 360 version, I love metal Gear, etc etc etc.?
Drsw36
Drsw36
Commented on 2008-06-15 08:55:11
I agree with DrebinPoints.
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Commented on 2008-06-15 09:22:41
behold the power of MGS
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cma112087
cma112087
Commented on 2008-06-15 11:13:30 In reply to jmd749
Posted by jmd749
i give it 10/10, and most of the reasons i love it are covered in the ign review who also gave it 10/10 btw, so i shan't bother listing reasons, just check out the ign review.
a very very good contender for GOTY, but i still have my eyes open for resistance 2 later this year.:D
You mean like 9 out of 10?

I looked on IGN, they didnt give it a perfect score, unless of course you are referring to the AU review, which is garbage. Check game rankings, this game has not got anything on any other game out this generation review wise...lol.
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cma112087
cma112087
Commented on 2008-06-15 11:16:36 In reply to DrebinPoints
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Lol, in all honesty, nobody really wants this game, we all know that the whole exclusivity thing is just for bragging rights.

And in all honesty, when MGS series has such a rediculously small install base, how do you expect everybody in here to like it?

Only people riding Konami's nutsac would say this game is a 10/10.

GTA:IV probably ain't deserve a 10/10...if that makes you feel better, but i would rate GTA higher, for obvious reasons.

Move on PS3 fanboys, and stop egging them on 360 fanboys.
blmbox
blmbox
Commented on 2008-06-15 14:09:28
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Why does this always happen with the great games?

All the slagging off on the Gears 2 gameplay trailer which led to it actually being locked, and now the exact same thing is occurring with this MGS video.

It's pathetic - I don't even own a PS3, but that doesn't mean I have to slate it because it won't be coming to my console. As much as Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would like to convince you, gaming is not a competition - it's about picking the console that is right for you and enjoying the games you have on it.

I couldn't care less that I don't own a PS3. Sure there are great games coming out on it that I would like to play like MGS and Little Big Planet, but i'm more than happy with the games coming out for the 360.

Just because a great game is coming out but it won't be on your console, doesn't mean you have to start slagging the console or the game off.

Boulet this please.
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