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Taekwondo :)

Oh, and Bass' CT looks sick :O

finally some TKD style in DOA.
Very nice barrages of kicks, especially that slow spin fast kick in the end.

Aso the voice is War from Darksiders, the demon dude in World of Warcraft and the new character in Sengoku Basara 3.
I like his voice acting.
Nice design too.

Bland white dude with stupid shit shaved into his hair

Also tribal on the hood?! FUCK, let me just shove some pencils into my goddamn eyes
AAAAAAAAAAARGH

I think you are jelly of his meticulous fashion sense. :)

Terrible terrible character.

What hapend with STREAM?

It doesn't look really good!

A roided up emo with a hoodie and shitty tattoos oh let's not forget the stupid name.

Let's all be honest here. Dead or Alive prevails only because it has huge bouncing tits. Gameplay wise it's a butchered and simplified Virtua Fighter.

And yet more fun than VF, yes i said it.

Doesn't make it right :P

But again, i doubt you understand even the basic menchanics of fighters in general, which is why you like this crappy series of games :)

dont worry, i dont give a shit for fighting genre, find them boring in a long term. A few minutes of blowing off some steam with ass kicking characters is enough for me.

DOA>VF...right, for me.

Maybe if you actually took the time to learn you'd enjoy them more. I had the same idea of fighters untill i actually tried to learn how to play VF with VF4:EVO and then Tekken. Now Tekken and VF are easily #2 and 3 on the top list of my most played games. Then again, nowadays i pretty much exclusively play Tekken6, VF and League of Legends :P

I've always loved VF AND DOA. They both satisfy different needs in the fighting department, and I don't feel the need to pan one just to prop another :P Of course, I'd actually love to see a fighter that felt as Natural as the Fight Night series does. Of course, that's more sim-ey than game-ey, and having to work in kicks would be difficult...

See, i kinda don't agree. VF does pretty much everything DoA does and a LOT more to boot. Sure, it's not as gratifying for mashing, but it's still not that hard to learn a few strings in VF and pummel your friends. I mean, looking at the frame data, VF is rather forgiving when it comes to spamming. To me borked mechanics isn't a niche, it's just broken. Then again we have player like KORN who obviously likes his games broken as all shit (ie the special mode in SC with enhanced stats and stuff), so there is certainly a market for it.

I'm not bashing DoA because i just don't happen to like it, i bash it becasue i think its's fundamentally broken. Obviously i can't speak for 5, but the games so far have done little to impress in that department. I do't like Street Fighter i can still admit that it's a decent fighter, not so much with DoA.

Im an enormous fan of DOA. Tried every other fighting game, even bought VF5 and SC4 but just doesnt do it for me. DOA has a unique feel and quality fun factor and thats ultimately why I play any game.

Ok, so let's do the official litmus test. Challenge open for anyone, though Grift can stay away, you'll just ruin it. I know you know :P

Take a move in, say VF and describe all it's important values/properties. I'll be expecting a minimum of 4 items on this list, though you'd prove your point all the more if you manage to nail all 10 that i can think of right now (caught myself a bit unsure if one of the stats actually applies to VF but screw it).

Here is the shit that i can think of for a specific move in a game like VF, Tekken or Soul Calibur. Obviously there are other specific properties for games but in general i think most of this applies to a 3D fighter. And yeah, i'm not looking for specific numbers, just the kind of terms you'd use to describe the properties of a move.


Important frame data:
Execution/initiation
Hit
Recovery

Move properties:
Launcher
Crumple/stagger (suppose this one often ties in with CH properties though, but not always)
Tracking
Wall Splat
Knockdown
Counter Hit
Interrupt (for strings)


And yes, i know how incredibly snobby this is, but i'm just trying to prove the point that in general peole aren't aware of what they are doing when playing fighting games. Now, you don't have t be a fighting game wizard, obviously, i jsut kinda want people to admit that they are just mashing out. If that's what you want then thats fine, just don't try to defend the broken games by calling them niche or something. If you don't care, feel free to have a blast.

Hell yeah, i like options in my fighters...so sue me o_O.

Options that makes it virtualy unplayable. I mean you brek the balance and fairness that the developers tried so hard to get right with that shit.

I think most of this board understands your opinion of DOA by now Megido :P

As if that is gonna make him stop bitching about it lol

Bah. It's cool that you like to get down to the gritty details, I guess, but I don't work that way. You don't have to pay that much attention to get a lot out of a fighting game. But you can still get a feel for an attacks speed and recovery time (along with what attacks stream together) without that kind of OCD. Having some personal experience with REAL fighting (not sport, miltary), I look at it a bit more chaotically. You can have the training and the ability to time attacks, a couter-attacks, and defense, but you need to be able to deal with the chaos element. I have respect for a game that allows you to "feel" where to go. Maybe that's why I like Fight Night so much. I don't personally over-analyse, but I still don't button mash either. I don't think you have to operate on a pro level to have a valid appreciation for a fighting game.

But he just REALLY likes telling us about it. Over and over and over and over and over...

As for Rig, fight style looks good, character aesthetics are kinda bland though.

Personally, i don't think understanding the system and basic strategy of a game instantly puts you at a pro level tbh. I mean, i'm not amazing at Tekken. If i went to a tournament i'd get my ass handed to me, but it puts me a cut above people who just learn the 10 hit combo and think they've mastered the character, and i think it gives me a lot more enjoyment of the game to know what i'm doing. Though obviously you have to be able to "feel" what the opponent is doing anyway. Just knowing frame data will get you nowhere if you don't know how to react in situations, predict what your oponent will do next or read patterns. But having an idea of the system allows you to expand your play style, and use moves to their full potential and even find uses for moves you thought sucked (or vice versa).

I don't think pro players have time to think about fame data while playing either, but it is a great tool for practicing and training purposes. To help you get that "feeling".Damn right i ain't gonna stop.