2008-03-25 18:04:46 In reply to TheBeagle (2008-03-25 15:46:27)

2008-03-25 18:38:32

Well, many people are reporting the issue of not being able to join games. I'd say that's pretty broken. When you do finally get into a game it lags like shit.

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2008-03-25 19:28:36

I haven't had any lag, but I got kicked out of a match once. The ticker already says that they're having a problem meeting demand. My experience recently has been nothing but positive. Pretty fun so far. I like the feeling of being put directly in combat. You're enemies don't instantly die like in COD4, so its a bit more challenging. The audio is incredible. Really captured the sounds that make combat exciting. Vehicles are a blast.

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2008-03-25 19:42:09

You can't really complain on the first day of a beta test. After all that is the point of the whole thing.

The fact that the beta appears to be all over filesharing scene isn't going to help either, they restricted the number of keys for a reason.

2008-03-25 21:04:57

hmm, ok so i'm not the only one, been trying to join a match, but cannot. but that doesn't make the game broken. it's a beta test, the first hours...thats the hole purpose of the thing no?
looking forward still. hope i can get a taste of it still today

2008-03-25 21:47:56

EA seemed not prepared for this, poor planning.

2008-03-26 02:58:39

Poor planning is no file protection on the beta. WTF were they thinking?

The impressions I've read from people who have been able to play so far have been a bit mixed/concerning. I guess this really is MC2--only this time they pulled a 2142 and critical kit equipment has been made into unlocks. I hope DICE learns that this isn't good game design by the time BF3 rolls around. If I have to unlock frag grenades again (or worse yet medic packs, etc), I'm going to be pissed. This isn't a fuck'n RPG. I also read that there's no minimap on the hud which is also discouraging news (this is BF after all).

Oh well, I still haven't tried it myself so these are only second hand impressions. Like I've said before, I want to give this game a fair shake for what it is.. and if that's MC2 with destructible environments.. well I think there's an obvious market for that.

2008-03-26 03:46:19 In reply to GriftGFX (2008-03-26 02:58:39)

2008-03-26 09:37:19 In reply to GriftGFX (2008-03-26 02:58:39)

2008-03-26 10:58:41

Hotkeys for melee attacks. Oooh boy.

I was under the impression that sprinting wasn't a toggle, a la COD4.

Sounds like BF-Lite: ADHD edition.

2008-03-26 11:29:29 In reply to GriftGFX (2008-03-26 10:58:41)

2008-03-26 11:33:02

Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. As in, it's for people who don't want a game with a steep learning curve as seen in a game like BF2.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if you couldn't manually create your squads in this game, but hopefully if you join a game with a party you're automatically thrown in the same squad. It would be ridiculous to forcefully separate you and your buddies.

2008-03-26 12:02:35

^^
i'm guessing you're talking PC, because on the pad you don't toggle. You run as long as you have the thumbstick pressed. Both CoD4 and BF:MC.

Yeah, and i'm keeping my fingers crossed the squad creation and ordering commands. Otherwise, will suck big time.

2008-03-26 12:09:08

on the topic, one thing that stroke me was that the Dpad didn't have any functionality. maybe reserved for the squad commands (attack, deffend, etc)?
Sure hope so.

2008-03-26 12:13:24 In reply to mt_sabao (2008-03-26 12:02:35)

2008-03-26 12:29:41 In reply to GriftGFX (2008-03-26 12:13:24)

2008-03-26 12:56:34 In reply to mt_sabao (2008-03-26 12:29:41)

2008-03-26 13:46:37 In reply to GriftGFX (2008-03-26 12:56:34)

2008-03-26 14:10:22

mt_sabao. You're the stubborn one. I'm 100% sure it's click to run in COD4. And I haven't messed up with the setups. And I've played it at 3 of my friends too and it's the same. Don't be stupid and just admit that you were wrong. Oh, and we all got it on Xbox 360.

2008-03-26 16:25:31

I'm afraid he is right, mt_sabao. You only have to click it once.

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2008-03-26 16:54:08 In reply to TheBeagle (2008-03-26 16:25:31)

2008-03-26 17:06:58

At first I thought it was hold to sprint as well. I'm glad it isn't, because holding the stick down, while pushing it forward AND trying to navigate terrain at the same time is very difficult.

About the beta. I wasn't complaining as such about the problems. I know it's a beta and I expected these exact things to happen. Modern Combat worked fine for the most part so I see no reason why this game won't function properly by launch. I'll give it a go again today. I still don't think this will take me away from COD though. There is stuff I like about it but something just doesn't click for me.

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2008-03-26 23:27:49 In reply to TheBeagle (2008-03-26 17:06:58)

Eugh, this game is so doomed unless there are major gameplay upgrades, it feels exactly like modern combat, slow, unresponsive and oversimplified.

COD4 has set the bar for all FPS games to aim for, it controls so well and feels so much more responsive than anything else.

Problems with BC:
Falling any distance whatsoever will cut your health by a random amount, fall damage should be remove or seriously reduced getting off the top of buildings should not penalise you, especially as your health doesnt regen.

The wait timer between spawns is rediculously annoying, yes i know its a standard battlefield feature but it just doesnt work on a console especially with the new spawn functionality where you spawn on top of a grenade or under an airstrike a huge chunk of the time.

Ironsites are hideously big and obscure a good chunk of the screen which is made worse by the visual effects of low health, smoke when firing rounds and size of tracer rounds.

Weapon accuracy, it just seems completely random, ive emptied entire clips of support class weapons into a group of enemies 5ft away and ended up with no kills.

Weapon switching, the inability to switch weapons when sprinting and the general slowness of weapon switching is again very annoying.

Overall, it needs a lot of work to bring it upto scratch, it's fun at times i will give it that, the ability to obliterate buildings and terrain is awesome and the vehicles are great (bar the helicopter which is a pain to control), but the infantry combat is so far behind COD4 that i can't see it really gaining any market share.
Shame really, was hoping for a change of scenery...

2008-03-27 00:10:25

Well, gameplay looks much more promissing than CoD4. I will certainly love this game. The weapon models seems to look as great as CoD4 weapon models. But the overall visuals of BF BC is much better than CoD4. The only annoying thing is this terrible tearing. I hope they will fix this issue.