PS4 pro and HD TVs

2040

Since 3235 Days

Is it a good idea to buy a PS4 pro when you own a HDTV? Considering Pro is all about 4k and HDR

Sony already talked about HDTV compatibility and better visuals ... But how much better?? Does it worth buying when you already have a PS4?

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scoobs0688

Since 5429 Days

Well Tomb Raider has a 1080p unlocked frame rate version for the Pro so, ya, it will be worth it for some games, but not all. Depends on the developer as always.

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GriftGFX

Since 6795 Days

They can/might super-sample some games at 1080p too, which would further their image quality over the non-Pro version. And the can improve some of the baseline settings over the original console. I think there's room to grow at 1080p. And I know they said that games will mostly play at the same framerate, but they're talking about target framerates. I imagine the PS4 Pro will iron out some inconsistencies in older games too.

That might not be compelling enough to force an upgrade, but I think Sony is thinking about new customers, not converting old ones.

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2040

Since 3235 Days

Posted by scoobs0688

Well Tomb Raider has a 1080p unlocked frame rate version for the Pro so, ya, it will be worth it for some games, but not all. Depends on the developer as always.

Well considering your point of view it is smart to wait for games to come out first .. right?

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2040

Since 3235 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

They can/might super-sample some games at 1080p too, which would further their image quality over the non-Pro version. And the can improve some of the baseline settings over the original console. I think there's room to grow at 1080p. And I know they said that games will mostly play at the same framerate, but they're talking about target framerates. I imagine the PS4 Pro will iron out some inconsistencies in older games too.

That might not be compelling enough to force an upgrade, but I think Sony is thinking about new customers, not converting old ones.

Exactly ... When you already have a PS4 It is hard to convince yourself to buy a pro , Imagine a PS4 user with a HDTV .. It seems unnecessary to buy a pro in that situation.

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yippee123

Since 5243 Days

It is not all about 4K and HDR

It also may have a better IQ on HDTV

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2040

Since 3235 Days

[quote=yippee123]It is not all about 4K and HDR

It also may have a better IQ on HDTV[/quo

I'm sorry if I'm a caveman But how IQ is gonna help? Describe IQ for me a little please

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KORNdog

Since 6199 Days

Posted by 2040

[quote=yippee123]It is not all about 4K and HDR

It also may have a better IQ on HDTV[/quo

I'm sorry if I'm a caveman But how IQ is gonna help? Describe IQ for me a little please

supersampling. it'll be running at 1800p (tomb raiders native res) (this will depend on the dev and what they can squeeze out of it), and then downscaled to 1080p reducing pretty much all jaggies. think of it as a brute force AA solution.

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2040

Since 3235 Days

Posted by KORNdog

supersampling. it'll be running at 1800p (tomb raiders native res) (this will depend on the dev and what they can squeeze out of it), and then downscaled to 1080p reducing pretty much all jaggies. think of it as a brute force AA solution.

Thanks man!

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GriftGFX

Since 6795 Days

Posted by 2040

I'm sorry if I'm a caveman But how IQ is gonna help? Describe IQ for me a little please

And not just down-scaling but improved anti-aliasing settings and more aggressive quality settings could make the Pro beneficial to 1080p users. I think it's a fair question though and I think we will only really know for sure once people can start doing hands-on/side-by-side analysis.

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2040

Since 3235 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

And not just down-scaling but improved anti-aliasing settings and more aggressive quality settings could make the Pro beneficial to 1080p users. I think it's a fair question though and I think we will only really know for sure once people can start doing hands-on/side-by-side analysis.

Exactly it's best to wait for hands-on Analysis

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Riven326

Since 3815 Days

Posted by 2040

Is it a good idea to buy a PS4 pro when you own a HDTV? Considering Pro is all about 4k and HDR

Sony already talked about HDTV compatibility and better visuals ... But how much better?? Does it worth buying when you already have a PS4?

Think of it like a PC upgrade. Do you have to upgrade your monitor when you buy a new graphics card? No. There is no reason to buy a 4k tv just because you're upgrading your console. If you have an 1080p television and are satisfied with it, then keep it and upgrade your PS4. You will benefit from super sampling of games that are rendered in native 4k, which will result in less aliasing in games. Games that are rendered naively at 1080p will greatly benefit from the increase in GPU power of the PS4 Pro as well. Although I don't think many games will render at 1080p given Sony's 4k push with the console. So, I wouldn't count on that being common.

Personally, I would want more control over convenience. In other words, I would want to be the one to determine what resolution the game runs in and not leave it up to the developer to decide. I would go the PC route and not even bother with the PS4 Pro. I'd rather run all my games in 1080p or 1440p at 60hz, versus 4k at 30hz.

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[quote=2040]Is it a good idea to buy a PS4 pro when you own a HDTV? Considering Pro is all about 4k and HDR

Sony already talked about HDTV compatibility and better visuals ... But how much better?? Does it worth buying when you already have a PS4?[/quote]
Think of it like a PC upgrade. Do you have to upgrade your monitor when you buy a new graphics card? No. There is no reason to buy a 4k tv just because you're upgrading your console. If you have an 1080p television and are satisfied with it, then keep it and upgrade your PS4. You will benefit from super sampling of games that are rendered in native 4k, which will result in less aliasing in games. Games that are rendered naively at 1080p will greatly benefit from the increase in GPU power of the PS4 Pro as well. Although I don't think many games will render at 1080p given Sony's 4k push with the console. So, I wouldn't count on that being common.

Personally, I would want more control over convenience. In other words, I would want to be the one to determine what resolution the game runs in and not leave it up to the developer to decide. I would go the PC route and not even bother with the PS4 Pro. I'd rather run all my games in 1080p or 1440p at 60hz, versus 4k at 30hz.

carbaazi

Since 2736 Days

good article

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docLEXfisti

Since 6913 Days

I am very happy with my PS4 Pro. The difference in Battlefield and Ratchet is amazing on 1080p. Just bought it for maximum 1080p quality.

Made a vid of the Battlefield 1 opening on the Pro @ 1080p/60 fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0X8EGePtFY

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I do it with 'em all: PC, WiiU, PS4 and Xbox One.

docLEXfisti

Since 6913 Days

Man that Ratchet & Clank looks so awesome in 1080p on the Pro...

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scoobs0688

Since 5429 Days

It is a gorgeous game in general. I played in on the reg PS4 and was blown away at the visuals, also very fun!

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docLEXfisti

Since 6913 Days

a good reason to get a Pro at the moment

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Tiz

Since 6460 Days

Posted by docLEXfisti

a good reason to get a Pro at the moment

I thought so too, but I'm not reading anything about 60fps framerate anywhere, so I'll just go with controller preference until they release it on PC and then I'll double dip.

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GriftGFX

Since 6795 Days

Posted by Tiz

I thought so too, but I'm not reading anything about 60fps framerate anywhere, so I'll just go with controller preference until they release it on PC and then I'll double dip.

I guess you mean Xbox? It'll run better on the regular PS4 than Xbox :D

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Tiz

Since 6460 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

I guess you mean Xbox? It'll run better on the regular PS4 than Xbox :D

Having played the Judgement demo on both XB1 and PS4, it came down to controller preference. The biggest difference between the 2 is resolution, and the XB1 resolution didn't offend me or my family. ;D

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GriftGFX

Since 6795 Days

Seems like it struggles to keep pace at 30 fps on the regular PS4 according to the post on the front page.

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Tiz

Since 6460 Days

Then I guess the question is whether the performance differences on the Pro are worth buying a brand new console for? Which I hoped would be the case. I guess I'll reserve final judgement until Square actually release that dedicated Pro patch they've been talking about and then maybe reconsider.

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