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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 4386 Days

2007-08-06 10:43:59 Halo 3 Preview - eurogamer

A not so hot preview if you ask me. they werent particularly happy with the graphics. check out the full preview here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=80...

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kenshin2418
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Since 4431 Days

2007-08-06 11:02:34

Averting our gaze from the onrushing scenery, one new feature we clocked immediately was the enemy-radar placed on the bottom left corner of the screen.
Awesome, I didn't know Enemy Radar was a new feature! They really should of had that in the previous Halo's.

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 4386 Days

2007-08-06 11:13:00 In reply to kenshin2418 (2007-08-06 11:02:34)

Posted by kenshin2418
Averting our gaze from the onrushing scenery, one new feature we clocked immediately was the enemy-radar placed on the bottom left corner of the screen.
Awesome, I didn't know Enemy Radar was a new feature! They really should of had that in the previous Halo's.
I LMAO at that part. I was like WTF ??? :D

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Heretic
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Since 4429 Days

2007-08-06 11:16:02

halo is more than graphics.

either way, i think, from what i've seen, it looks beautiful!

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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 4315 Days

2007-08-06 11:33:18

1up say the below,

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3161662

In the gloom of the base, Halo 3 doesn't actually look all that different from its predecessors -- sure, the Marines are a lot less blocky, but it's difficult to appreciate the game's visual enhancements in pitch darkness. Outside, though, it's a different story, and there's no question that Bungie is pushing the 360 hardware to create a damn good looking game. The fears left by the beta are clearly unfounded.


SCREENS: Halo 3 is the Master Chief's story, but fallen Covenant warrior The Arbiter isn't forgotten. He's the second player's character in co-op. (Note: Level shown in image is not Tsavo Highway.) Click the image above to check out all Halo 3 screens.

Many of Halo 3's most impressive effects are subtle, such as its use of HDR (high dynamic range) lighting to mimic the mechanics of the human eye -- go from darkness to sunlight and Master Chief's vision takes a moment to adjust to the glare. And unlike many next gen games, it's remarkably un-shiny; although metallic objects reflect light, matte surfaces like dirt and wood and stone are as dull as you'd expect.

Dull doesn't mean ugly in this case, though; the road to Tsavo highway is gorgeous, a path of reddish earth sprinkled with patches of grass and dappled with sun and shade from the trees lining the way. It's a straightforward path, surrounded on either side by rock, but more interesting is the massive ring-shaped wreckage strewn along the route. Your marine companions' chatter reveals this to be the New Mombasa orbital elevator, which was destroyed early in Halo 2 when the Prophet of Regret made a low-orbit hyperspace jump that annihilated the city. Now the wreckage stretches a thousand kilometers across the savannah, seemingly pointing the way to the Covenant occupying forces.

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Slabs
Slabs
Since 4486 Days

2007-08-06 11:52:04

It really does seem like the Eurogamer guy hasn't played Halo before. They do like to be controversial whenever possible.

deftangel
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Since 4324 Days

2007-08-06 12:31:21

Wow that's a great preview...no mention of the Scarab battle at all. Seemed also to get the impression that the equipment (not that he used the term) was limited to shields.

And the new feature, enemy-radar, LOL. It's a motion sensor for starters.

Swing and a miss Eurogamer!

RAZurrection
RAZurrection
Since 4328 Days

2007-08-06 13:40:57

Whoa. They added dual wielding!!!

JediMasterMalik
Since 4191 Days

2007-08-06 13:49:19 In reply to RAZurrection (2007-08-06 13:40:57)

Posted by RAZurrection
Whoa. They added dual wielding!!!
And more than one playable character, whodathunk!

Phaethon360
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Since 4301 Days

2007-08-06 13:50:04

I especially liked the short interview with Shane Kim in the article.

Eurogamer: Can you tell us a little bit about the 4 player co-op in Halo 3?

Shane Kim: What the....Jesus, how did you know about that?!

Eg: Bungie announced it a short while ago.

SK: Are you sure?

Eg: Yes.

SK: I'll have to confirm that, that was supposed to be our BIG announcement at Leipzig.
I kid.

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Slabs
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Since 4486 Days

2007-08-06 14:02:47

The article has been edited several times now already.

Apparently (according to a Eurogamer editor)...

"The enemy-radar you know from the halo-games before has CHANGED! (bungie also said at the event its "new").

Instead of showing you the health-tabs of your dude, its now a pure emeny-radar which also gives you orientation-points - red dots for enemies, yellow dots for orientation."

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 4348 Days

2007-08-06 17:20:51

EGM got an exclusive they'll never talk bad about Halo 3 :)

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Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

tarehart
tarehart
Since 3811 Days

2007-08-06 18:37:13 In reply to Slabs (2007-08-06 14:02:47)

That's the most awkward attempt to save face I've seen in a long time.

TheBeagle
TheBeagle
Since 4061 Days

2007-08-06 19:01:13 In reply to Slabs (2007-08-06 14:02:47)

Posted by Slabs
The article has been edited several times now already.

Apparently (according to a Eurogamer editor)...
"The enemy-radar you know from the halo-games before has CHANGED! (bungie also said at the event its "new").

Instead of showing you the health-tabs of your dude, its now a pure emeny-radar which also gives you orientation-points - red dots for enemies, yellow dots for orientation."
Isnt that still false ?

GriftGFX
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2007-08-06 19:32:35

I guess TXB just lost the worst article of the year award :)

Acert93
Mr. Bad Cop Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Since 4426 Days

2007-08-06 19:43:27

Ahhh, memories of 2004 and HL2 reviews. They are online press after all...

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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

deftangel
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Since 4324 Days

2007-08-06 20:03:05 In reply to TheBeagle (2007-08-06 19:01:13)

It's false because it's a motion sensor not a radar :) Enemies also always showed up on it in red!

The problem I have with Eurogamer is that in an effort to beat their US counterparts (and I sympathise a little as the Euro journos are at something of a disadvantage at times) they rush out copy/reviews and hence the quality of their output dips.

They did this with Gears. Played through on Easy and didn't touch the multiplayer to get their review out in line with the US sites. Consequently found themselves to be out of sync with everyone else and rather than front up, tried to redeem themselves in similarly embarrassing fashion justifying it.

A shame as some of their more considered output I think is decent, though the Eurogamer network still has this tendency to lap up Sony PR and spout it out verbatim and without question but seemingly downplay everything else.

Acert93
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Since 4426 Days

2007-08-06 20:35:02

A good journalist questions everyone and has a critical, but fair, eye toward everything. The problem with Eurogamers is they take themselves too seriously for their approach to the industry. It is very difficult to fault IGN for many things because they are clearly oriented at the mainstream and make no pretentions about being overly technical or even "industry insiders" in the sense of market projections and tit-for-tat marking BS.

You toss in the crap like the GoW review -- it is hard for me to think of a legit site that did a review, WITH A SCORE, of half a game -- and it is what it smells like: They take the big games as oppurtunity to drive interest in their site.

Pure marketing. And they aren't the only site to do this. Gamespot has conveniently picked editors and positions in the past to get similar results.

Controversy sells. Look, you guys linked to and are TALKING about Eurogamers.

Eurogamers 1, Disgruntled Observers 0

Now I need to go blog about this :P

Eurogamers 2, Disgruntled Observers 0

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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

JediMasterMalik
Since 4191 Days

2007-08-06 20:40:31

The worst review I've ever read was the 1up Gears review. He listed so many reasons not to give it a 10, and did so anyway.

TheBeagle
TheBeagle
Since 4061 Days

2007-08-06 20:48:40 In reply to JediMasterMalik (2007-08-06 20:40:31)

Posted by JediMasterMalik
The worst review I've ever read was the 1up Gears review. He listed so many reasons not to give it a 10, and did so anyway.
I remember that. I think he was just so overwhelmed with the graphics that he allowed that to slip.

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 4348 Days

2007-08-07 01:13:57 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-08-06 19:32:35)

Posted by GriftGFX
I guess TXB just lost the worst article of the year award :)
haha nah they still own that award :)

Eurogamer gave a valient effort, but it wasn't good enough!

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Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

LEBATO
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Since 4577 Days

2007-08-07 05:06:07

I just got the EGM with the H3 exclusive, and WOW...........that looks sooooooo underwhelming!

Can they achieve that E3 trailer? The answer is probably not, and by a long shot.

The only thing that I can see that the game will impress me with is the lighting and the huge environments/battles they talk about. Other than that, it is very underwhelming like I said.

It really does look like some sort of deja vu from Halo 2, where they are not to the level of what they first showed.

What makes everything look so "bad" (it's not terrible, I'll give them that), are the textures, especially on vehicles. I kid you not but on page ~3 or so of the article, there's a pic with a warthog with 4 characters in it, what my eyes saw was the lowest low-res vehicle I've seen this generation.

But it's not only the textures on the warthog and pretty much all its occupants, in terms of details/polygons, it pretty much looks like a copy/paste from Halo 2......yes, like the beta.

If anyone here has ever played Rainbow Six Vegas co-op, did you look at those textures? Well, that's pretty much what I see all over the place in the H3 single player. This applies to every vehicle, most of the characters, and a LARGE part of the--lacking--environment.

Ooops what's that? Lacking environment? Yes. I remember when they said that those steel boxes in that video where simply temporary, and that the real decorators would be placed later on........one month before release and they still show shots with unimaginative, low resolution square boxes.........when you run out of ideas, just throw a box in there.

Man. It really is something worthy of seeing.

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 4348 Days

2007-08-07 07:10:10

I saw it and I disagree entirely. Most of the shots shown aren't even good enough to see worth a damn in the first place. Stuff you can see actually looks good, but its taken in such a boring spot and other shots I've seen of the game in other magazines look much better than what is shown in EGM.

I'm sure you've seen them too.

SCANS REMOVED

Not one shot in EGM's mag looks as good as these and these have quite a bit of quality loss due to the scans.





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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

deftangel
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Since 4324 Days

2007-08-07 13:03:56 In reply to LEBATO (2007-08-07 05:06:07)

I can't speak for EGM but the screens in Edge look pretty good. From the beta I thought there was some very good texture work in places also. Can't say I've been underwhelmed from anything I've seen so far.

Regarding boxes, One level starts off in a warehouse and I believe there is an industrial town called Voi which you come across. There's bound to be boxes!

Milhouse
Since 3860 Days

2007-08-07 14:01:16 In reply to LEBATO (2007-08-07 05:06:07)

Posted by LEBATO
It really does look like some sort of deja vu from Halo 2, where they are not to the level of what they first showed.
I don't know the scans, but what i've seen from the E3 07 Trailer i've come to the same resolution. Most assets looks exactly like from HALO 2. All these starships and explosions, human characters looks so lastgen. But what me really makes annoying is the fact that bungie impertinently lie to the customer like T10. We didn't expect anything, but it was bungie that made so much hype about the graphics.
Just remeber the E3 06 Trailer. It's not just the trailer, but there was this ominous behind the door demo and every press visitor stated that the demo even looks better than the trailer. Now, the final game doesn't nearly come close to the trailer. the game even nearly come close to Gears of War, a game that is outdated and beaten (in the graphics area) by lots of other current/upcomming games.
Then they've made that hype about the real looking grass. If you would look at the ground you wouldn't notice any differende to real world grass. Where is it? Nowhere! The only thing they are using are some kind of flat photo texture (you could see it in the Beta). The 3D grass they are using is absolutly not worth to mention, because it's just bad. Ridiculous, even 7 years old PC games have provided photo textures. Even Halo 1 has had some photo textures, but it was low res, because of SDTV. The HALO 3 grass even can't keep up with the 3D grass of GoD2, it doesn't come nearly to the grass of CoD3 and certainly can't keep up with the grass of CoD4.
Next causeless hype are the character animations. Bad, it's just bad. Just look at the E3 07 trailer when the mc runs out of the forrest or when he was walking in this starship vessel.

I am definitly buying HALO3 to make my final judgement and to see how this trilogy ends. but from a technical view HALO 3 looks underwhelming.

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